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Old 08-27-2019, 12:47 PM
 
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Since Israel won the land in the Six-Day War, how are the settlements illegal? Furthermore, you do know that "Palestine" exists in theory, only, right? "Palestine" doesn't issue visas, for example. One must obtain a visa to enter Israel, Jordan or Egypt and proceed to "Palestine" from there.

So if you don't believe in the two state solution, what should become of the Palestinians?
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Old 08-27-2019, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Austin
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So if you don't believe in the two state solution, what should become of the Palestinians?
Perhaps other surrounding arab, muslim countries would take them? There are numerous options. However, so far, "Palestinians" aren't wanted by any arab, muslim countries.
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Old 08-27-2019, 12:50 PM
 
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So if you don't believe in the two state solution, what should become of the Palestinians?
They should call themselves citizens/subjects of the country from which they came. Palestine is a country in theory, only. It isn't even a member of the UN. Palestine does not issue visas, and neither the state nor the country of Palestine issues passports.
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Old 08-27-2019, 01:03 PM
 
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Perhaps other surrounding arab, muslim countries would take them? There are numerous options. However, so far, "Palestinians" aren't wanted by any arab, muslim countries.
Christians and Jews there were before there were muslims, and are not welcome in muslim lands taken away from Christians and Jews. As far as I'm concerned muslims should be unwelcome in Israel, Europe, and America.
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Old 08-27-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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They should call themselves citizens/subjects of the country from which they came. Palestine is a country in theory, only. It isn't even a member of the UN. Palestine does not issue visas, and neither the state nor the country of Palestine issues passports.

And what country did they come from?
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Old 08-27-2019, 01:14 PM
 
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And what country did they come from?
It depends. Jordan or Egypt.
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Old 08-27-2019, 01:20 PM
 
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It depends. Jordan or Egypt.

What about those that came from what is now Israel or those native to the West Bank?
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Old 08-27-2019, 01:20 PM
 
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Through out history, there seems to be a high percentage of Jewish people voting for the Democratic Party.

My family is split up by many Republican Jews and some liberal Jewish people.

My direct family members always voted for a Conservative.

Many Jewish people I spoke with in the past were democrats, but now I have seen a change. Some seem to be afraid to admit their change of hearts but even on TV, I have seen Democratic Party members (Jewish) who no longer can stand behind Schumer, Pelosi, and the squad and their hate.

Maybe we have to thank the squad for showing what the Democratic Party is about and I* believe from what I have been hearing lately, that more Jews will vote for Trump. Maybe not all will do so because they agree with everything, but many can no longer stand behind the Democratic Party that is overflowing of Anti-Semitism.

Not sure if anti-Semitism would make Jews walk away from the democratic party. Trump have said Mexico is enemy of the USA and how Mexicans are murderous rapists drug dealers and maybe there is a good person in there but still has some Mexican supporters. Trump has shown to be a pervert who brags about sleeping around, grabbing women by the vagina, watching teenagers undress in his pageants, has been married 3 times already because of his cheating, and yet even feminist groups support him. Christians would never ever allow someone like Trump to put a foot behind their podium, yet, they go as far as saying he best represents moral, family, and Christian values. I can give more examples of how people can follow, admire, and support a candidate even if he clearly goes against their beliefs and convictions.
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Old 08-27-2019, 01:23 PM
 
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What about those that came from what is now Israel or those native to the West Bank?
They are Israelis, not Palestinians. "Palestine" exists in theory, only. It is not a member of the UN, does not issue travel visas, and does not issue passports.

ETA: Those living in the Palestinian territories are issued passports by the "Palestinian Authority," but they are practically useless. In practice, most living in the West Bank are given a Jordanian passport by the Jordanian government for traveling abroad.
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Old 08-27-2019, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Northern NJ/Amagansett, NY
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Back to the thread topic of Jewish people walking away from the Democratic party.

Exactly where would they go?

Libertarian? Republican?
Iím not saying they are leaving, but as it is, 1 in 4 already vote republican in presidential elections. A minority, sure, but still enough to discredit any claim that it would be far fetched for Jews to vote republican.
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