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Will Jewish people walk away from Democrats? Just the opposite after Trump anti-Semitic tweet. I imagine most Jewish people will vote against those who are anti-Semitic which includes Trump.
I'm saddened to see that you don't see the antisemitism in implying that Jewish people must be "loyal" to Israel (dual loyalties being one of the biggest antisemitic tropes on both sides of the aisle) or that there are "good Jews" who are determined, in this case, by a gentile. The idea that Jews must be loyal to earn safety suggests our dissent justifies violence against us.
Please direct me to where any Democratic Congressman or Congresswoman has said that they would like to see Israel annihilated. No need to attribute additional antisemitism when just quoting them on their words would be enough.
Oh, it bothers you that a gentile decides who is a "good Jew" Would it bother you to know that your fellow liberals have called me a "bad Jew," a Hitler child, and, most recently, "not a real Jew"? And why? Because I support Israel! How upside down is that?
Of course not. Why would an American Jew join the Republicans, a party that includes white supremacists, skinheads, Nazis and Alt-Righters who blame Jews for the world's problems?
And he forgets to mention that the base for his boy Bibi is made of of MANY sects that don't support Israel either!
HBO's "Our Boys" is a great series on some of the dynamics involved.....but these sects, which are living in Israel and take full advantage of the protection of the government and others, not only don't fight in the military...but they believe they don't need to listen to the government. The Torah and Rabbi are their guide and, unlike many American religions, they don't believe in "respect the government AND your faith". Only one of those two....
Are you referring to the Haredim (ultra-Orthodox) or Chasidic Jews? Like the folks in Kiryas Joel, NY?
Oh, the Haredim and their exemptions from military service are a pretty controversial topic in Israel. There are a number of political parties in Israel, across different political spectrums, that want to do away with that exemption.
Well, the Haredi also have pull as well - and demographically, their high birthrate/large familes will pretty much ensure that they'll be important politically too - and that's no small thing given the fractured electoral politics of Israel and the need to build coalitions.
Of course not. Why would an American Jew join the Republicans, a party that includes white supremacists, skinheads, Nazis and Alt-Righters who blame Jews for the world's problems?
You have more anti-Semitic Farrakhan followers in the Democrat party than the fringe white supremacists, Nazis, and skinheads on the alt-right, combined! But that's not the worst of it: You have ELECTED OFFICIALS right in the Democrat Party who are blatantly anti-Semitic, partner with anti-Semitic groups that libel Jews, and whom other Democrats are whitewashing.
I'm saddened to see that you don't see the antisemitism in implying that Jewish people must be "loyal" to Israel (dual loyalties being one of the biggest antisemitic tropes on both sides of the aisle) or that there are "good Jews" who are determined, in this case, by a gentile. The idea that Jews must be loyal to earn safety suggests our dissent justifies violence against us.
Please direct me to where any Democratic Congressman or Congresswoman has said that they would like to see Israel annihilated. No need to attribute additional antisemitism when just quoting them on their words would be enough.
This is nonsense. Trump supposedly wants Jews to be certain way (pro-Israel, pro-Jewish) which is bad because if instead they are the other way (anti-Israel, anti-Jewish) it is good . That's some A-class propaganda the left is spinning this in to.
Ah! I see.....so we were both right. He clarified it that Jews who vote for Democrats are being disloyal to the Jewish people and to Israel.
I don't see where that's wrong. We have alt-left Democratic Congresswomen proudly proclaiming their support for a movement that wants to see Israel annihilated, and that would definitely be to the detriment of Jews were it allowed to happen. We have Democratic Congresswomen being sponsored by an anti-Semitic group to go to "Palestine." We have Democratic Congresspeople saying they would consider cutting off aid to Israel.
I know several Jews who have always voted Democrat and are appalled. They are planning to vote for Trump.
'When you're stuck in a hole, stop digging.'
You know darn well that you considered Omar's 'dual loyalty' comment anti-Semitic in and of itself. Why not just say you're disappointed in Trump's comments, but his actions are supportive of Israel while the OmarTlaib coalition of Democrats work for its extinction.
Are you referring to the Haredim (ultra-Orthodox) or Chasidic Jews? Like the folks in Kiryas Joel, NY?
Oh, the Haredim and their exemptions from military service are a pretty controversial topic in Israel. There are a number of political parties in Israel, across different political spectrums, that want to do away with that exemption.
Well, the Haredi also have pull as well - and demographically, their high birthrate/large familes will pretty much ensure that they'll be important politically too - and that's no small thing given the fractured electoral politics of Israel and the need to build coalitions.
Well, as you know, there are many sects - some built around a single Rabbi. He is their messenger from the Lord and that is that.
In Israel these are many of the settlers....
"An estimated 118,000 ultra-Orthodox Jews now live in settlements such as Beitar Illit and Modi’in Illit."
"While the ultra-Orthodox make up around 10 percent of the population among all Israelis, they now count for a third of those in the West Bank, which many Israelis refer to by its biblical name, Judea and Samaria."
As to the American sects, many of them are even "anti-Israel" (anti-Zionist) in the sense that perhaps the Rabbi they followed is, again, the Dear Leader and whatever he says is the real deal. That is the way these things work - they are authoritarian cultures.
One would have to go sect by sect or settlement by settlement to get an idea of where their loyalties lie. Any way you look at it, tho, these people are a minority of Jews (people who are, by tradition, Jews).
In the USA some of the Orthodox vote Blue. Trump only got 54% of American Orthodox Jews - when you consider that many (most?) of them are NYC based in one way or another, that's not as much as one might expect. They are male-centric, commerce based and "conservative"....
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. That's some A-class propaganda the left is spinning this in to.