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Old Today, 12:52 AM
 
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A party is suppose to look out for all of the persons in this country. When you are President of the USA, you are suppose to be looking out for everyone, not just one particular group.

If the Democrats aren't doing that much for Blacks, then explain to me how the GOP is doing any better. I'm not seein the GOP looking out for Blacks at all.
Trump or GOP would say they want to provide more opportunity to all Americans and have equal access. Trump has said on several occasion during his tenure it's been the lowest unemployment rate for African Americans, Asian Americans, and Hispanics Americans and women in how many ever decades. He never mentions whites or males in the employment rate, maybe because they have not gained as much or at all .

I can't make you see things my way, but from my perspective the GOP has bent over backwards to court minority voters to the neglect of whites, and they still get very few votes especially from blacks.
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Old Today, 12:58 AM
 
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Trump or GOP would say they want to provide more opportunity to all Americans and have equal access. Trump has said on several occasion during his tenure it's been the lowest unemployment rate for African Americans, Asian Americans, and Hispanics Americans and women in how many ever decades. He never mentions whites or males in the employment rate, maybe because they have not gained as much or at all .

I can't make you see things my way, but from my perspective the GOP has bent over backwards to court minority voters to the neglect of whites, and they still get very few votes especially from blacks.
Okay...so the economy (jobs) is better for minorities? How about society? BOTH need to be better!
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Old Today, 01:02 AM
 
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Okay...so the economy (jobs) is better for minorities? How about society? BOTH need to be better!
That's pretty broad, but that's where the "law and order" part of the platform kicks in. Not having security at the border and sanctuaries for criminals doesn't benefit minorities either.
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Old Today, 01:10 AM
 
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That's pretty broad, but that's where the "law and order" part of the platform kicks in. Not having security at the border and sanctuaries for criminals doesn't benefit minorities either.
Don't follow second part of paragraph and who benefits? So there is no security at the southern border? There is. How about the northern border? Yes, pretty broad but aspiring for a better society very important.
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Old Today, 01:21 AM
 
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Here's my anecdata:

I am an upper middle class urban white with a graduate degree in my late 30s, so based on my demographic profile I should be pulling the blue lever with great devotion every two years.

Well, something funny happened on the way to the polling booth. And most of it had to do with being demonized by the left.
So you vote based upon who demonizes you?
Forget policy it's all about "YOU" right?


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Old Today, 01:39 AM
 
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I didn't like Obama's demonization of whites and America or his policies that matched up with it. His administration seemed to be affecting even what was happening on the ground and in local neighborhoods. Cops were getting disrespected and shot because of him and there was too much rioting . It seemed the common person was emboldened by the demonization and acting on.
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Old Today, 03:44 AM
 
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Doesn’t matter what race you are, the best thing everyone can do is jump out of BOTH corrupted parties and register as Independent.
Send Congress a message we are fed up.......
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Old Today, 05:37 AM
 
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Anyone who doesn't think in 20 years that the 50% white electorate will mostly vote Republican and the 50% non-white electorate will mostly vote Democratic has their head in the sand. There will be outliers in either party who don't fit the race pattern, but most of the votes will come from racial blocs.

For some not insignificant part of either faction, their vote will be determined by race. For most, it will be a factor which is correlated with other factors such as socio-economic status and cultural values.

I actually dread this outcome but don't see a way around it. It's surely an ugly way to debate national politics. For decades, "individual policy preferences vs group identity" was the leaven that kept American politics above banana republic level.

This change will mostly come about from white voters acting as a bloc, whereas in the past they were somewhat evenly divided between the two parties. This shift will be driven by declining white electoral size relative to non-whites, and the policy changes in both parties as a result.

Democrats will eject whites with policy changes, and Republicans will pick them up with policy changes. The latter step is necessary to prevent the voter from not voting at all.

Non-whites have been bloc voting for decades, and whites did not follow suit because they were in a position of strength and could afford the luxury of voting for other reasons. That is already changing however.
I thought similar when Obama took office. I think the percentage of whites who vote republican will, over the long run, peak at near 70 percent. That is not to say that in some years it does not decrease, but in 20 years I would say 60 percent for sure.
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Old Today, 05:41 AM
 
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Your thinking is way too Partisan. And racist.
I don't vote for people on basis of the R or D they have besides their name.
That being said if trends continue in the current fashion, I may not ever vote

for a Republican again.

They have thrown out the things that I liked about them most to begin with (smaller Government, Less government interference in peoples lives, balanced budget, fiscally conservative)And They seem to have been taken over by the crazies in their party, who seem racist, biased, paranoid and longing to live back in another century of time.



And you can scream that I am just a Liberal or biased, blah blah, blah blah, but yet I was a Republican from 1976 - 2016.
Exactly my feelings. Former McCain, Romney voter,, part of the 47%that pays income tax and disgusted with the new gop /white nationalist party under the lying divider in chief
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Old Today, 07:31 AM
 
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I think you'll become politically homeless as a result of changes in the Democratic party before you'd ever vote Republican.
How is opposing illegal immigration (not plain ole immigration as that poster implied) an obsession? It's justifiable considering the very negative impact it has on all American lives except for the greedy employers who hire them. Talk about sticking their heads in the sand and being in deep denial of that. It isn't just Republicans who oppose illegal immigration either. No, there are not plenty of jobs for them to do just greedy employers that want to increase their profits by hiring them. How can so many be so ignorant of this? Farmers don't need to hire illegal aliens either as there are unlimited visas for legal, foreign farm workers. I swear the ignorance of these lefty liberals is simply astounding not to mention their no respect for the rule of law.

I have to laugh at their hypocricies also. They constantly bash rich Republicans but want them to be able to retain their cheap, illegal workers which therefore makes them richer. All lawbreakers should be resented and our anger is justified no matter if they are illegal aliens or our own citizens breaking the law. I swear I can't understand the ludicrousness of their anti-American positions. If this is going to be the mindset of the majority of our own citizens in the future we are doomed.
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