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Old Today, 09:47 PM
 
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Anyone who doesn't think in 20 years that the 50% white electorate will mostly vote Republican and the 50% non-white electorate will mostly vote Democratic has their head in the sand. There will be outliers in either party who don't fit the race pattern, but most of the votes will come from racial blocs.

For some not insignificant part of either faction, their vote will be determined by race. For most, it will be a factor which is correlated with other factors such as socio-economic status and cultural values.

I actually dread this outcome but don't see a way around it. It's surely an ugly way to debate national politics. For decades, "individual policy preferences vs group identity" was the leaven that kept American politics above banana republic level.

This change will mostly come about from white voters acting as a bloc, whereas in the past they were somewhat evenly divided between the two parties. This shift will be driven by declining white electoral size relative to non-whites, and the policy changes in both parties as a result.

Democrats will eject whites with policy changes, and Republicans will pick them up with policy changes. The latter step is necessary to prevent the voter from not voting at all.

Non-whites have been bloc voting for decades, and whites did not follow suit because they were in a position of strength and could afford the luxury of voting for other reasons. That is already changing however.
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Old Today, 09:56 PM
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This white is a Democrat. I don't think there's a "policy change" Republicans could make to get my vote unless it was a Democratic platform that included health care, education and removing the ridiculous contradictions like opposing welfare but loving farmer handouts, just for a start. I'm not remotely obsessed with immigration the way Republicans are. There's apparently plenty of jobs they could do and farmers begging to hire them so I don't share the anger and resentment Republicans have for them.

I don't consider religion a wild card that grants unlimited immunity. I don't care about gay marriage. I would rather abortion be legal than pay for poverty stricken, often drug addicted mothers to have babies they can't care for. The divide is not racial as much as it is urban vs. rural and the urbans are tired of paying for everything.
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Old Today, 09:58 PM
 
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This white is a Democrat. I don't think there's a "policy change" Republicans could make to get my vote unless it was a Democratic platform that included health care, education and removing the ridiculous contradictions like opposing welfare but loving farmer handouts. I'm not remotely obsessed with immigration the way Republicans are. There's apparently plenty of jobs they could do and farmers begging to hire them so I don't share the anger and resentment Republicans have against them.
I think you'll become politically homeless as a result of changes in the Democratic party before you'd ever vote Republican.
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Old Today, 10:01 PM
 
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Your thinking is way too Partisan. And racist.
I don't vote for people on basis of the R or D they have besides their name.
That being said if trends continue in the current fashion, I may not ever vote

for a Republican again.

They have thrown out the things that I liked about them most to begin with (smaller Government, Less government interference in peoples lives, balanced budget, fiscally conservative)And They seem to have been taken over by the crazies in their party, who seem racist, biased, paranoid and longing to live back in another century of time.



And you can scream that I am just a Liberal or biased, blah blah, blah blah, but yet I was a Republican from 1976 - 2016.
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Old Today, 10:05 PM
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Your thinking is way too Partisan.
I don't vote for people on basis of the R or D they have besides their name.
That being said if trends continue in the current fashion, I may not ever vote

for a Republican again.

They have thrown out the things that I liked about them most to begin with (smaller Government, Less government interference in peoples lives, balanced budget, fiscally conservative)And They seem to have been taken over by the crazies in their party.
I stupidly thought Republicans really were obsessed with the deficit, even during a recession. Seeing the GOP now has been a huge eye opener. Never ever ever again will I believe their machinations against a Democratic president are based on true belief. After this, I will KNOW it is political and nothing more. They will never be able to make that claim again. Tax cuts for a trillion dollar debt increase? These are extremely dishonest people in spite of their religious claims.
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Old Today, 10:06 PM
 
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Your thinking is way too Partisan.
I don't vote for people on basis of the R or D they have besides their name.
That being said if trends continue in the current fashion, I may not ever vote

for a Republican again.


They have thrown out the things that I liked about them most to begin with (smaller Government, Less government interference in peoples lives, balanced budget, fiscally conservative)And They seem to have been taken over by the crazies in their party.
You're talking out of both sides of your mouth because you want to seem "above the fray", when instead you don't seem any less partisan than most of the people here.
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Old Today, 10:09 PM
 
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Anyone who doesn't think in 20 years that the 50% white electorate will mostly vote Republican and the 50% non-white electorate will mostly vote Democratic has their head in the sand. There will be outliers in either party who don't fit the race pattern, but most of the votes will come from racial blocs.

For some not insignificant part of either faction, their vote will be determined by race. For most, it will be a factor which is correlated with other factors such as socio-economic status and cultural values.

I actually dread this outcome but don't see a way around it. It's surely an ugly way to debate national politics. For decades, "individual policy preferences vs group identity" was the leaven that kept American politics above banana republic level.

This change will mostly come about from white voters acting as a bloc, whereas in the past they were somewhat evenly divided between the two parties. This shift will be driven by declining white electoral size relative to non-whites, and the policy changes in both parties as a result.

Democrats will eject whites with policy changes, and Republicans will pick them up with policy changes. The latter step is necessary to prevent the voter from not voting at all.

Non-whites have been bloc voting for decades, and whites did not follow suit because they were in a position of strength and could afford the luxury of voting for other reasons. That is already changing however.
In 20 years whites will be the minority. Itís already happening
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Old Today, 10:10 PM
 
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I think you'll become politically homeless as a result of changes in the Democratic party before you'd ever vote Republican.
I wanted socialism and all I got was kicked out of the colored party and this stupid t-shirt.
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Old Today, 10:12 PM
 
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In 20 years whites will be the minority. Itís already happening
Changes in the electorate lag changes in the population, if only because of the minimum voting age.
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Old Today, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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Anyone who doesn't think in 20 years that the 50% white electorate will mostly vote Republican and the 50% non-white electorate will mostly vote Democratic has their head in the sand. There will be outliers in either party who don't fit the race pattern, but most of the votes will come from racial blocs.

For some not insignificant part of either faction, their vote will be determined by race. For most, it will be a factor which is correlated with other factors such as socio-economic status and cultural values.

I actually dread this outcome but don't see a way around it. It's surely an ugly way to debate national politics. For decades, "individual policy preferences vs group identity" was the leaven that kept American politics above banana republic level.

This change will mostly come about from white voters acting as a bloc, whereas in the past they were somewhat evenly divided between the two parties. This shift will be driven by declining white electoral size relative to non-whites, and the policy changes in both parties as a result.

Democrats will eject whites with policy changes, and Republicans will pick them up with policy changes. The latter step is necessary to prevent the voter from not voting at all.

Non-whites have been bloc voting for decades, and whites did not follow suit because they were in a position of strength and could afford the luxury of voting for other reasons. That is already changing however.
As a white person I could never see myself voting for the GOP unless they change their stances on a plethora of issues...such as gay rights, universal healthcare, and their denial of climate change to just to name a few.
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