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Old 08-20-2019, 01:20 AM
 
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What is the key conservative truth about men who like to butt with men?
That the government keeps its butt out of it. If consenting adults anyway. People are free to their life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
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Old 08-20-2019, 01:28 AM
 
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Cuz' SJW Liberals are scared to speak the truth about Muslims, that's why.

SJW Liberals are just bullies, and like most bullies they only respect those they fear, usually worse bullies.

...and, taken as a whole, there are hardly a worse group of bullies than Muslims.

See, if Christians actually were as brutal and intolerant as SJW Liberals claim; they wouldn't dare talk s--t about them, and everybody knows it.
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Old 08-20-2019, 01:39 AM
 
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Cuz' SJW Liberals are scared to speak the truth about Muslims, that's why.

SJW Liberals are just bullies, and like most bullies they only respect those they fear, usually worse bullies.

...and, taken as a whole, there are hardly a worse group of bullies than Muslims.

See, if Christians actually were as brutal and intolerant as SJW Liberals claim; they wouldn't dare talk s--t about them, and everybody knows it.
Another misconception. Operating within our legislature and courts to remove Christian condemnation of people for religious reasons is cleaning out our own house of our imperfect implementation of our truths outlined in the Declaration of Independence.

Trying to do so elsewhere in Muslim nations is nation building/regime change. Which conservatives should have no interest in.
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Old 08-20-2019, 01:46 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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I repped you. Because I misread you! Minus one rep for you for completely factless assertion.

I still do wonder when being a warrior for justice became a Bad Thing.
When they became oppressors in their zeal. Far, far, far too many SJWs have forgotten that when trying to level the playing field the goal should only be lifting the downtrodden up, it should never include pushing others down.
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Old 08-20-2019, 01:56 AM
 
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When they became oppressors in their zeal. Far, far, far too many SJWs have forgotten that when trying to level the playing field the goal should only be lifting the downtrodden up, it should never include pushing others down.
Care to provide some specific examples of where it has gone too far to push others down?

Or is this a case of “when you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression”?

In the case where it does truly swing too far the other way are there not other SJWs that push back for Affirmative Action reform or what have you? The battle will likely never be over.

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Old 08-20-2019, 02:14 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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This is an old conservative trope, much like what I heard back when protesting the Vietnam war - "America: love it or leave it". In other words conservatives are tribal in nature - you have to fully adopt the ways of the tribe and improvements to the tribe through self-critique is not tolerated. Just shut up and be a good tribal guy. This is the same attitude of people who say that whites are self-loathing because they are willing to own up to crimes of the past like slavery.
American slavery is not the crime of someone living today to “own up” to, anymore than someone whose grandfather killed a police officer in 1960 has to own up to his crime. Every country on this Earth has engaged in actions that are atrocious, assigning guilt or taking punitive measures against people who were not even alive to participate in in those actions is wrong and not the appropriate way to fix the current issues caused by those atrocities. What is required is to learn from our past - this does require not erasing ugly history - and figure out ways so that we become one people, not this group or that.

Honestly, I do agree there does seem to be an amazingly high number of white people who are self loathing, especially among the younger generations. You folks want to atone for the damage caused by slavery? Start giving your time to providing free tutoring in high minority schools, offer to donate sports participation fees at a low income school or start a charity to fund the whole team, volunteer for habitat for humanity, work on getting non-gouging grocery stores in minority neighborhoods, or clean up the the literal trash in inner cities. And, if you are really interested in atonement, demand the government address programs that incentivize unwed pregnancies and instead institute programs and policies that will help get the black male back in his home. Oh, and stop patronizing us like we are puppies you kicked.

But.... this has little to nothing to do homosexuality and just blaming Christians, other than thinking the way to fix the problems of the guy being hurt is to punish anyone and everyone who can be placed in the same group, whether because of looks or religious affiliation, as someone you precieve as having once done a wrong to a member of group you think needs supporting. That is called stereotyping and it is never a healthy way to address actual damage.
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Old 08-20-2019, 02:42 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Care to provide some specific examples of where it has gone too far to push others down?

Or is this a case of “when you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression”?

In the case where it does truly swing too far the other way are there not other SJWs that push back for Affirmative Action reform or what have you? The battle will likely never be over.
Other than the “Orange man bad” the below post sums it up:
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When the notion of "justice" was reduced to:

"white man bad"

"America bad"

"Orange man bad"

"Christians bad"
This is a pretty succinct definition:
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Social justice warrior (SJW) is a pejorative term for an individual who promotes socially progressive views, including feminism, civil rights, and multiculturalism, as well as identity politics. The accusation that somebody is an SJW carries implications that they are pursuing personal validation rather than any deep-seated conviction, and engaging in disingenuous arguments
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:09 AM
 
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Fundamental Muslims will stone gays to death or drop them off buildings

Fundamental Christians will just leave them alone or at worse shun them.


Who's the bigger threat?

And Christians get the bad rap by the SJWs thinking it's ok to go after Christians that they are on some self righteous pursuit to push equality because a professor told them so. That and no fear of reprocussions they know christians will not retaliate against them.

On the other hand they know darn well how Muslims will react to negative publicity. In case you forgot just google things like the "draw Mohammed Contest" the Garland TX attack Charlie hebdo in paris, etc. There are countless examples of Muslims saying "Islam is a religion of peace if you slander us we'll kill you". Let that sink in.

Islam is also intertwined as a joint religious political system. They have far more means, doctrine and opportunity to oppress homosexuals, yet you hear nothing from the SJWs.
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:46 AM
 
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When they became oppressors in their zeal. Far, far, far too many SJWs have forgotten that when trying to level the playing field the goal should only be lifting the downtrodden up, it should never include pushing others down.
Should never. Well, I am not sure I agree with that. And will probably struggle with it if it were ever to come to pass. But I don't see it. Leveling the playing field necessarily means that the field can no longer tolerate the acceptance and endorsement of privileged that the majority, myself included, hold. So long as we tolerate racial profiling, police brutality in minority communities and turn a blind eye. So long as we are still more angry at a visible athlete for making a statement than we are at the horror that he is peacefully protesting, we are not there. And we are not at risk of getting there any time soon.
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:49 AM
 
Location: Northern NJ/Amagansett, NY
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Again, you are creating a false choice when you make the argument about prioritizing. You dont have to vote for the homophobe on the ballot. You choose to.

If you truly cared, you wouldnt compromise that principle, you would vote for someone who actually stood for what you believed in.
I think this is just, all or none rhetoric that people on the left so often use.

I can respond with rhetoric too. Unfortunately, the guy who supports the rights of the homosexual, wants to violate my rights by stealing what is mine. The homophobe, as you put it, does not want to steal my possessions, or at the very least, wants to steal a lot less. The guy who supports the rights of the homosexual, wants to bring people into the country, some of whom are dangerous, some of whom don't believe in my rights, or the rights of homosexuals for that matter, and all of whom will require him to steal more from me. The homophobe wants to keep them out.

I could go on, but I think you get my drift.

There are republicans who are gay like The Log Cabin Republicans. I bet you think they don't care as well?
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