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Old 08-18-2019, 11:11 AM
 
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You're so emotional over this, you see things that aren't even there.

Where did I reference the Koran?

Oh, I didn't, but your fervor clouds your mind.
What did you mean by Larry wanting to kill them? Joes holy book says the same thing.
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I think compared to many radical Muslims, there are many Jews and Christians more tolerant of gays or lesbians. Of course, that is perhaps the rule and not the exception as there are radical Jews and Christians that are less tolerant of gays and lesbians than than some Muslims.
Endless brands of Christianity, Islam and Judaism in the world andsome trend radical.
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:12 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I guess you aren't paying attention to all the gays who are hung for homosexuality in Muslim nations??????


Libs are hilarious. As Islam, with all its hatred of gays, women, Christians, Jews and barbaric practices is an ally of liberalism in their war against Christianity, they overlook all the problems with their religion.


As the Nazis before them, liberals are allies with Islam in order to achieve a secondary goal. They have a common enemy in western civilization, as well as Christianity and Judaism.
And homosexuals are often beaten and tortured in so-called Christian Nations such as Russia.

AND . .just in case you haven't seen it - I recommend the documentary 'God loves Uganda" to see how 'Christian missionaries' are causing the death of homosexuals in that country.

Islam is NOT a major religion in this country; nor will it ever be.

And it's exactly why I believe in complete and total separation of church and state - which many Christians in this country seem to oppose.
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:12 AM
 
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You always hear the liberal left complain and whine and accuse the Christianity for being ant homosexual when in fact religions like Islam actually kill homosexuals. Why is that?
Who said it is? Maybe that's your experience, but not mine. I've heard anti-homosexual rhetoric and beliefs from, generally, conservatives (Republicans and Libertarians), who are, for the most part, purported to espouse Christian beliefs.

There are legal cases in the U.S. that have happened because Christians have refused to do their jobs, in refusing service to homosexuals, using their Christian beliefs as the reason. There was the north Texas clerk who got famous for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gays, after the U S Supreme Court ruled that gays have the right to marry. Then there was the infamous bakery case, where the owners refused to do a gay marriage cake, using their Christian beliefs as the reason.

I'm not aware of any Islamic or Jewish cases like the ones above. It is BEHAVIOR that matters, not thoughts. So it's possible that Islamic and Jewish people have anti-gay BELIEFS, but they follow American law and don't refuse to allow gays to get legal services.

The evangelists in the U.S. are unique in using ACTIONS to protest things they don't like. Not just beliefs. ACTIONS. Refusing to provide public services to gays, boycotting businesses that recognize legal rights of gays, boycotting movies that go too far in promoting anti-evangelical beliefs (like the Amazon Prime Original Omens...the evangelists are attacking it; they don't want anyone to see anything that they, the evangelists, don't approve of). You just don't find Islamists and Jewish doing things like that.

Believe whatever you want to believe. Go for it. But in America, it's BEHAVIOR/ACTIONS that matter, because we are a nation of laws that grants equal rights to all.
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:17 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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And yet another thread self immolates because people see or hear only what they want to.
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:17 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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Who said it is? Maybe that's your experience, but not mine. I've heard anti-homosexual rhetoric and beliefs from, generally, conservatives (Republicans and Libertarians), who are, for the most part, purported to espouse Christian beliefs.

There are legal cases in the U.S. that have happened because Christians have refused to do their jobs, in refusing service to homosexuals, using their Christian beliefs as the reason. There was the north Texas clerk who got famous for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gays, after the U S Supreme Court ruled that gays have the right to marry. Then there was the infamous bakery case, where the owners refused to do a gay marriage cake, using their Christian beliefs as the reason.

I'm not aware of any Islamic or Jewish cases like the ones above. It is BEHAVIOR that matters, not thoughts. So it's possible that Islamic and Jewish people have anti-gay BELIEFS, but they follow American law and don't refuse to allow gays to get legal services.

The evangelists in the U.S. are unique in using ACTIONS to protest things they don't like. Not just beliefs. ACTIONS. Refusing to provide public services to gays, boycotting businesses that recognize legal rights of gays, boycotting movies that go too far in promoting anti-evangelical beliefs (like the Amazon Prime Original Omens...the evangelists are attacking it; they don't want anyone to see anything that they, the evangelists, don't approve of). You just don't find Islamists and Jewish doing things like that.

Believe whatever you want to believe. Go for it. But in America, it's BEHAVIOR/ACTIONS that matter, because we are a nation of laws that grants equal rights to all.
You do find Islamists acting that way...in the Middle East. Most American Muslims are actually more moderate in theology. They would be the Christian equivalent of something like a Lutheran or maybe a Methodist, not a Southern Baptist.
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:18 AM
 
Location: STL area
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Certain Evangelical Christians have by far the loudest voice in OUR country and are the only ones in the US fighting full force against equal rights *in the US*. Muslims are as diverse in their views as Christians are IME. They leave these awful theocracies for a reason. People are individuals, not stereotypes.
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:19 AM
 
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Liberals see everything as a dichotomy of a power context of exploited/exploiter. In their view, Muslims are exploited or lack power, whereas Christians have power, so they must side with Muslims. Similarly, in their view, straight people have power while gay people do not. However, there is a hierarchy with Muslims being near the top - just below illegal immigrants.
Ironically the grievance hierarchy ignores world-wide trends, such as the fact that Muslims get medieval on homosexuals everywhere Muslims are in power. Instead the grievance hierarchy is organized by the perceptions of mostly white academics living in the west.
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:26 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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Certain Evangelical Christians have by far the loudest voice in OUR country and are the only ones in the US fighting full force against equal rights *in the US*. Muslims are as diverse in their views as Christians are IME. They leave these awful theocracies for a reason. People are individuals, not stereotypes.
This is true. We also have a situation where the dominant political party in the country gives power and influence to these evangelists even though we are supposed to have separation of church and state in this country.
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:26 AM
 
Location: California
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Because theyve only really seen persecution from Christians here?

Judaism is very supportive of homosexuals. Islam has had virtually no impact on our culture/laws.
Anyone that thinks Islam is not impacting our culture and laws is deluded. Islam has taken over American cities and is spreading. Also what about 9-11? Id say that was quite an impact for all the victims and families . That incident changed the way the entire US travels and lives to this day.

The left and liberalism in general have been attacking Christianity for some years now. Plus now its a sin literally to be white, lol. Gays are often victims of violence by many people not just Christians , though this is what so many ignore .

https://www.theunitedwest.org/2018/0...ections-bring/
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