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Old 08-18-2019, 11:26 AM
 
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Some Christians see the effort to get all religion out of government as just trying to get Christianity out of government. Where is this big effort to replace 10 commandment statues with the Koran or something?
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:33 AM
 
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Anyone that thinks Islam is not impacting our culture and laws is deluded. Islam has taken over American cities and is spreading. Also what about 9-11? I’d say that was quite an impact for all the victims and families . That incident changed the way the entire US travels and lives to this day.

The left and liberalism in general have been attacking Christianity for some years now. Plus now it’s a sin literally to be white, lol. Gays are often victims of violence by many people not just Christians , though this is what so many ignore .

https://www.theunitedwest.org/2018/0...ections-bring/
The fight to prevent Sharia law and the fight to keep Christian influence out of the law are one in the same.

It’s not a matter of which one is better. None belong there.
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:34 AM
 
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Because in the U.S. it's fundamentalist Christians driving the push for anti-gay laws. Christians may not want to kill gays (though I'd argue that many actually do), they want laws that force gays back into the closet and into the shadows of society. Furthermore, that is a significant part of the agenda that drives the Republican Party which in itself is pretty much a fundamentalist Christian party these days.
You know any Christians who want to kill gays? Or are you just arguing out your back orifice?
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:36 AM
 
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You always hear the liberal left complain and whine and accuse the Christianity for being ant homosexual when in fact religions like Islam actually kill homosexuals. Why is that?
Because no other religion is as prominent in the US as christianity and no where near as effective at limiting the rights and freedoms of others. No one cares if christians don't want to have sex with or marry people of the same gender. They care that they want to restrict other people from doing so. You don't see effective campaigns in this country from other religions.
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Because in the U.S. it's fundamentalist Christians driving the push for anti-gay laws. Christians may not want to kill gays (though I'd argue that many actually do), they want laws that force gays back into the closet and into the shadows of society. Furthermore, that is a significant part of the agenda that drives the Republican Party which in itself is pretty much a fundamentalist Christian party these days.
what are these anti-gay laws that are passing at the Federal level? Heck, in more than 20 states?
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:41 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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You know any Christians who want to kill gays? Or are you just arguing out your back orifice?
I heard people talking about how homosexuality should be a capital crime all the time in the fellowship hall after church when I was growing up. I think that counts.
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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Religion has nothing to do with it. People judge who they hate and embrace those they like.
Well not quite. There are doctrines in the orthodoxy of the Abrahamic religions that preach against homosexual practices. The same people who preach about the philosophies of peace and love for their religions can be virulently against the behavior, viewing it as an abomination against God.
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:45 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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I heard people talking about how homosexuality should be a capital crime all the time in the fellowship hall after church when I was growing up. I think that counts.
Oh bull****.
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:50 AM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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Because in the U.S. it's fundamentalist Christians driving the push for anti-gay laws. Christians may not want to kill gays (though I'd argue that many actually do), they want laws that force gays back into the closet and into the shadows of society. Furthermore, that is a significant part of the agenda that drives the Republican Party which in itself is pretty much a fundamentalist Christian party these days.
How many fundamentalist republicans are there? Do you have a quote or a list of names? I'd be interested to know.
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Old 08-18-2019, 12:29 PM
 
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I heard people talking about how homosexuality should be a capital crime all the time in the fellowship hall after church when I was growing up. I think that counts.
Where did you go to church? Westboro Baptist? Talking about what a group believes is one thing. Hanging gay people from cranes and throwing them off of tall buildings, what muslims actually DO, is something else entirely.

Christian persecution of people in the US is a BS argument used by secularists who are actively trying to remove all religious influence in civil society as long as that religion is Christianity. If it's Islam, they conveniently look the other way.
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