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Old 08-18-2019, 06:59 PM
 
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What did you mean by Larry wanting to kill them? Joe’s holy book says the same thing.
I'm talking about actions.

I guess The View didn't mention what actually is occurring in the ME to gays.

You might want to inform yourself just a tad.
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:01 PM
 
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I heard people talking about how homosexuality should be a capital crime all the time in the fellowship hall after church when I was growing up. I think that counts.
You grew up with crazy fringe lunatics.
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:03 PM
 
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You may want to read up on the orthodox position and lgbt rights in Israel. Also their position of church/state separation.

Those famous Leviticus passages even have disputed translations and context referring to male temple prostitutes rather than homosexuality in general.

It does just seem to be those that haven’t really studied and just repeat individual verses that are most virulent in their opposition to homosexuality.
You know, (as a reminder) I just spent a good half hour reading orthodox sources on homosexuality and I can't say that they're very pro gay. No doubt exceptions can be found, but I'm not seeing any pro-gay philosophy. At least no one is getting thrown off of a building.

Honestly, it's hard to misconstrue "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." as referring to prostitution. I can see where Hadrian might have viewed Jews as sticks in the mud.
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:07 PM
 
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You always hear the liberal left complain and whine and accuse the Christianity for being ant homosexual when in fact religions like Islam actually kill homosexuals. Why is that?
Because "our" Muslims aren't tossing gays off buildings. If it doesn't happen here it doesn't really happen I guess.
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:08 PM
 
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You know, (as a reminder) I just spent a good half hour reading orthodox sources on homosexuality and I can't say that they're very pro gay. No doubt exceptions can be found, but I'm not seeing any pro-gay philosophy. At least no one is getting thrown off of a building.

Honestly, it's hard to misconstrue "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." as referring to prostitution. I can see where Hadrian might have viewed Jews as sticks in the mud.
Because English did not exist and those weren’t the words used?

The context was temples to Molech which had shrine prostitution.
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:09 PM
 
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You know, (as a reminder) I just spent a good half hour reading orthodox sources on homosexuality and I can't say that they're very pro gay. No doubt exceptions can be found, but I'm not seeing any pro-gay philosophy. At least no one is getting thrown off of a building.

Honestly, it's hard to misconstrue "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." as referring to prostitution. I can see where Hadrian might have viewed Jews as sticks in the mud.
You are citing old testament not new. Christians are very much about the new testament as Christ showed the way. Many things on the old testament that can be construed as sins are now considered by Christians as advice on living a healthy happy life and not sins.
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:19 PM
 
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I'm talking about actions.

I guess The View didn't mention what actually is occurring in the ME to gays.

You might want to inform yourself just a tad.
Why do you think I’m denying that happens?

Are you aware Christians are doing the same thing in Uganda at the prompting of Christians here?
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:27 PM
 
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Why do you think I’m denying that happens?

Are you aware Christians are doing the same thing in Uganda at the prompting of Christians here?
Are you aware what youre implying is completely FALSE.

Here is some educational material for you:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...s-9193593.html
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:31 PM
 
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Mr Lively said that when he made recommendations to water down Mr Bahati’s draft, they were ignored. “I’m very glad they dropped the death penalty, which was beyond the pale,” he said. “I have mixed feelings about the remaining provisions… Simple homosexuality should not be punished with jail terms.”
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:46 PM
 
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You do find Islamists acting that way...in the Middle East. Most American Muslims are actually more moderate in theology. They would be the Christian equivalent of something like a Lutheran or maybe a Methodist, not a Southern Baptist.
Yes, that was my point, which I probably didn't say clearly. Pretty much most religions are anti-homosexual, and many followers of those religions follow that belief system. But we notice Christians here in America more because they are more apt to act on those beliefs. I think you're right in that it's mainly the activist Christian churches (Southern Baptist, any number of evangelical churches) that promote actions in furtherance of anti-homosexual (and anti-other things) beliefs.

How odd the OP and some responses are for blaming the left for noticing and remembering the actions of anti-homosexual Christian people. Heck, those Christian people purposely did things to get in the news, in the first place. That was their objective, IMO.
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