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Old Yesterday, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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WASHINGTON, D.C. — Consumer Reports, the nonprofit consumer advocacy organization, today released an analysis showing that American consumers will lose about $460 billion dollars in fuel savings in the coming years if the federal government goes forward with plans to roll back the nation’s fuel economy and emissions standards for new cars and light-duty trucks.

The rollback was just submitted by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for review within the White House, suggesting the proposal may soon be finalized.

Even though the basis for the rollback proposal is purportedly to improve highway traffic safety, and thus named the “SAFE Rule” by federal agencies, this analysis by Consumer Reports (CR) finds that freezing fuel economy and emissions standards would not improve safety.

https://advocacy.consumerreports.org...sscd3uIjHfglcU

Not sure I totally agree with this article CAFE standards are one reason why it’s got so expensive to own and maintain a car/truck.
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Old Yesterday, 08:15 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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Yes, the improvement in fuel economy has resulted in savings at the pump, and yes, it cost us more to buy the cars, and to maintain and repair them. The CAFE standards had nothing to do with safety. In fact, time may tell us that the improved economy reduces safety, with EV battery fires, and all of the turbochargers now that have not been around long enough in quantity to show data patterns on failures and whether accidents result.
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Old Yesterday, 08:21 PM
 
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The premise that SAFE puts forth is that if gas is cheap we will drive more and therefor have more accidents. IDK. Ten more bucks in my pocket is not going to spur me to drive more. I mean I am not going to wake up and say lets go for a drive today because its cheap.
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Old Yesterday, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The roll back in CAFE standards was sold as safety, no one believes that not even the car companies.
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Old Today, 02:49 AM
 
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rolling back CAFE standards will have no effect on safety, nor will increasing the standards. the CAFE standards only deal with fuel economy, thats it.
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Old Today, 06:27 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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WASHINGTON, D.C. — Consumer Reports, the nonprofit consumer advocacy organization, today released an analysis showing that American consumers will lose about $460 billion dollars in fuel savings in the coming years if the federal government goes forward with plans to roll back the nation’s fuel economy and emissions standards for new cars and light-duty trucks.

The rollback was just submitted by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for review within the White House, suggesting the proposal may soon be finalized.

Even though the basis for the rollback proposal is purportedly to improve highway traffic safety, and thus named the “SAFE Rule” by federal agencies, this analysis by Consumer Reports (CR) finds that freezing fuel economy and emissions standards would not improve safety.

https://advocacy.consumerreports.org...sscd3uIjHfglcU

Not sure I totally agree with this article CAFE standards are one reason why it’s got so expensive to own and maintain a car/truck.
Long Live The HOTROD!
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Old Today, 06:29 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The roll back in CAFE standards was sold as safety, no one believes that not even the car companies.
The composite body panels to save weight, and the smaller packages, are causing more severe injuries than in the past.
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Old Today, 06:29 AM
 
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Conservatives "ideology and populism now outweighs cleaner air and efficiency and ALL THINGS that might be better for our future and children".

There was a great Podcast (RadioLab) which detailed how the Reagan Admin tried to stop the banning of lead. They were hell bent on doing do...much like the current "anti science" people.

But, TO THEIR CREDIT, they took the stats to their GAO and CBO and Economic advisers who told them that keeping lead in fuel was going to make the US lose incredible amount of money due to DUMBING DOWN the population by IQ points. They stopped fighting it then....

Shows you how far Right our politics have gone. Bad enough that Reagan and friends didn't want to ban lead in fuel.....in the first place. But at least they came around for the $$$$.

Today, it's the opposite. People vote against their own interest and sit at home carrying the water for things which harm their own children. Amazing to watch...really!
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Old Today, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The composite body panels to save weight, and the smaller packages, are causing more severe injuries than in the past.
Composites have been around for some time but now they are an issue.
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Old Today, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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WASHINGTON, D.C. — Consumer Reports, the nonprofit consumer advocacy organization, today released an analysis showing that American consumers will lose about $460 billion dollars in fuel savings in the coming years if the federal government goes forward with plans to roll back the nation’s fuel economy and emissions standards for new cars and light-duty trucks.

The rollback was just submitted by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for review within the White House, suggesting the proposal may soon be finalized.

Even though the basis for the rollback proposal is purportedly to improve highway traffic safety, and thus named the “SAFE Rule” by federal agencies, this analysis by Consumer Reports (CR) finds that freezing fuel economy and emissions standards would not improve safety.

https://advocacy.consumerreports.org...sscd3uIjHfglcU

Not sure I totally agree with this article CAFE standards are one reason why it’s got so expensive to own and maintain a car/truck.
That assumes that somehow the magic technology to get a CAFE of 50mpg actually existed. We had an utterly clueless fool in the WH that had no understanding of science, technology or physics that implemented those standards in the first place. Standards that the industry had no way to achieve. It was an idiotic standard-but made a fool look like he was "doing something". Which of course appealed to his supporters.
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