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Old 08-18-2019, 06:55 PM
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Minority Report..a pre-crime so give him a pre-trial and a pre-prison sentence.
Well, what would you like to see happen, in the cases of these three young men?
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Old 08-18-2019, 06:56 PM
 
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Not all murderers would qualify as a nut job.
Then why strip any of their rights if they haven't done anything?
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Old 08-18-2019, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Report them. If their behavior/threats prove credible, let the justice system deal with them.
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:00 PM
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Report them. If their behavior/threats prove credible, let the justice system deal with them.
Right.

That's been done.

What would you like to see happen to them, in the justice system?
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:01 PM
 
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Not all murderers would qualify as a nut job.
That is the issue isn't it. Is talking about a willingness to kill a crime? If not all three will not necessarily be averted mass murderers.

You said if "likely to kill" then put them in a psych ward. What is the standard that needs to be reached?
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:01 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Well, what would you like to see happen, in the cases of these three young men?
Charge them with criminal intent and then go forward with that.

You think this is the first time someone got caught before they committed the crime ?
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:03 PM
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Charge them with criminal intent and then go forward with that.

You think this is the first time someone got caught before they committed the crime ?
What would you like to see happen to them? (This is becoming tiresome. Can you just say what you'd like to see happen to them and not keep avoiding the question?)
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Right.

That's been done.

What would you like to see happen to them, in the justice system?
If their threats/actions were unlawful, then they need to be convicted and spend some time in the slammer, which would prevent them from legally owning firearms and would take them off the street for a while. If they are deemed to be criminally insane, I'd hope that there was a way to forcefully medicate them, but that's probably wishful thinking.

At the end of the day, you don't need to have acted on a threat to have committed a crime by making the threat. Threats of violence are not protected by the First Amendment.
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Old 08-18-2019, 07:35 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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So this is a good step forward, people are aware they have a duty when someone tells them clearly it's their intent to blow up a bunch of people, and they have the firepower to do it, to report them.

But now, what? What do you do with people who have clearly announced their intent, and stockpiled the necessary weapons, but haven't acted on it quite yet?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/18/us/th...led/index.html
Guess what? People cooperating with the police would prevent a host of crimes especially in the most dangerous places in the nation, our inner cities.
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Old 08-18-2019, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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you know, "kill the quarterback"
and, "kill the messenger", and
"kill the power" will be in
a database somewhere.
Ohhhhhh, I'm in trouble........for I have been in that scene of "Antony & Cleopatra"!

Though, at the risk of sounding paranoid, such things do provide a guide book for one's life lest there is someone looking over their shoulder. How many secret rendezvous might we make, believing (and probably as we should) that it is no one else's business but that those actions might be seen by others as suspicious by those innocent who are nosy and those who might have an ax to grind?

Reminds me when I was doing research out on a jetty in the first decade of this century or doing photo recon of a beach town before it changed when the McMansions moved in. In the weeks before, I made sure that everyone who might have an interest knew what I was doing lest someone call in on that day about little ole suspicious me.

Watch your back.

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