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Old 08-20-2019, 08:36 AM
 
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You are missing the point, where did these corporate tax cuts get passed to tax payers.
Just addressing corporate tax cuts that were supposedly "tax reform".


Unless the republicans can come up with any meaningful spending cuts then yes we need to increase taxes to cover our spending, we have been cutting taxes since 2003 under Bush and Obama and here we are now with yet another tax cut and no spending cuts.
Maybe in the form of expanded facilities and new jobs is what they did.

Why do you think corporate tax cuts means money in your pocket ?
Isn't expansion and new job creation a better use of that extra money ?

That's what Amazon did. Rather than use Fedex/USPS for deliveries they are going to be delivering themselves.
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Old 08-20-2019, 08:37 AM
 
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yes. You still aren't Hendrix
Oh, he's long dead but it's nice to know anyone can take anything if it's not nailed down on actual real estate and that "property" is defined as only being atoms (not bits).
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Old 08-20-2019, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Oh, so "property" is sacred...but if I want to use Hendrix videos and make a movie to make $$$ off of, I should just do it?

Or, I should be able to take any hit song off the radio and then sell or rent it to other companies for 1/2 the price the artists agency is charging...and pay nothing to the artist since IP is a sham.

Fail.
Thoughts aren't property.

You should read the articles I linked before commenting.

Fail.
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Old 08-20-2019, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Maybe in the form of expanded facilities and new jobs is what they did.

Why do you think corporate tax cuts means money in your pocket ?
Isn't expansion and new job creation a better use of that extra money ?

That's what Amazon did. Rather than use Fedex/USPS for deliveries they are going to be delivering themselves.
Corporate tax cuts have little to do with expanding operations and new jobs. More likely, they're used for stock buybacks. Lots of examples of such companies pocketing the tax cut and then laying off staff.

Companies expand because they forecast new demand and needs for it.
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Old 08-20-2019, 08:46 AM
 
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Notice how so many liberals are so up in arms over the cost of Chinese goods going up and the affect on the cost to consumers; meanwhile, most of them want to increase corporate taxes on US companies which will increase the cost to American consumers.

TDS prevents rational thought.

They want the government running everything and to be slaves to the government.
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Old 08-20-2019, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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They want the government running everything and to be slaves to the government.
Conservatives and MAGAs want the same thing.
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:15 AM
 
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Maybe in the form of expanded facilities and new jobs is what they did.

Why do you think corporate tax cuts means money in your pocket ?
Isn't expansion and new job creation a better use of that extra money ?

That's what Amazon did. Rather than use Fedex/USPS for deliveries they are going to be delivering themselves.
Yep. Just bought a birthday gift for my nephew's 17th. He lives over 1,000 miles away. Amazon used their own service, not UPS, USPS, or FedEx to deliver it.
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:18 AM
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Location: On the Border
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I'm a liberal and I don't want that. I want income tax on the very rich (individuals) raised and all the loopholes they use to avoid paying for their share of the infrastructure they used to make their money, done away with.
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:20 AM
 
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Corporate tax cuts have little to do with expanding operations and new jobs. More likely, they're used for stock buybacks. Lots of examples of such companies pocketing the tax cut and then laying off staff.

Companies expand because they forecast new demand and needs for it.
Can you provide some ?
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:20 AM
 
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Of course we are calling for more taxes...isn't that the exact same thing as "balancing the budget"???

Words matter.

Glad to hear you admit that liberals are the real party of fiscal conservatism...but, at the same time, the GOP has set up back so many decades that it is likely hopeless now. Only a full-on liberal government could possibly bring down the deficit now.

The GOP just figures they (personally) won't be around when the bill comes due. Money NOW is more important then their children and grandchildren.

But the bill is already due and being paid....that 500 Billion a year just on interest could be used for some amazing US accomplishments.
uhm.... the notion that liberals are 'the real party of fiscal conservatism' is beyond ridiculous. (Not that i would argue that there is an American party that is the real party of fiscal conservatism)....


you just owned the whitehouse for 8 years and doubled the national debt. your party is currently proposing 20+trillion dollars in spending which is more than the GDP.... so.... there is that.




that being said, there are no people with real power in America that are fiscal conservatives. there are a few republicans in congress who make up a small sliver of the republican party that are true fiscal conservatives, but they are rare and have no real power.




but liberals? Cra, you just lied to yourself.
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