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Old Yesterday, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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I watched this video about the homeless problem in LA... and the problem solving seems pretty clueless to me. They are trying to treat the symptoms, but they aren't addressing the real problem of why their cost of living is so high - and trying to bring it down. But doing that would expose their liberal politics as deficient as best... criminal at worst.

Left Behind: Homeless Crisis in Los Angeles

It was claimed by a local that she knows people working full time minimum wage jobs (a supposed living wage) who live in tents. There's a lesson here for those of you who think higher minimum wages are the key to a better life.... it's not. All minimum wage hikes do is raise the cost of everything else. It's a relative scale. You raise the minimum wage... at some point, the industries will adjust themselves to the higher wages - and those making higher minimum wages will again be at the bottom of the totem pole - because those are jobs that are not high value jobs. Meanwhile, the affordability shelf just got higher and further away for those already in poverty to reach... and you now need $47/hr to afford median rent.

These cities are the definition of income inequality that liberals say is so bad. It's right there in the communities they represent, and they do nothing - both the politicians and the tons of sports and entertainment figures that have tons of money. They spend two years following a collusion hoax - that was their priority. Instead of focusing on Trump - why don't they just help the people in their own backyard?

I don't know why anyone would vote for a big city Democrat (or anyone) when they routinely overlook their own constituents.

The solution is not to simply build housing to move the problems from outside to inside. The solution needs to involve putting these people to work and earning a living - and to do that, they have to reduce the cost to operate business. They have to stop supporting illegal immigration - education, medical, food stamps - whatever. All of these things that "the state" pays for raises the cost to do business, raises the cost of food on the shelf, and raises the cost of housing.

The goal for housing is to allow the demand for housing to grow the market, which means people are making enough money to house themselves. Also, the government regulatory costs need to be lowered so the cost structure of the housing market decreases - making it more in accessible to lower income folks.

However, that does not seem to be the goal. The goal is removal of Trump. That's more important than fixing the homeless problem. They need to bring illegal voters in the country - to the detriment of its citizens - in order to hack the election system and get rid of Trump... which would lead to enacting the same policies that will make the country more like LA. How insane is that?

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Old Yesterday, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Of course. If there's no political motive our pols aren't going to represent or care about the people who voted them in.

But what are you complaining about? California is the sixth largest economy in the world. Forget the fact that if they removed Silicon Valley with a GDP of $235 billion and Hollywood with a GDP of $504 billion out of the equation the rest of the state isn't doing so well.
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Old Yesterday, 06:56 PM
 
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https://youtu.be/2MRrlIpQ-Hk

This guy explains it well.
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Old Yesterday, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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You can add this in to the mix as well...

Leprosy Exists in Los Angeles County, and Elsewhere
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Old Yesterday, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Of course. If there's no political motive our pols aren't going to represent or care about the people who voted them in.

But what are you complaining about? California is the sixth largest economy in the world. Forget the fact that if they removed Silicon Valley with a GDP of $235 billion and Hollywood with a GDP of $504 billion out of the equation the rest of the state isn't doing so well.
Income inequality on parade in California. No liberals... no occupiers... no 99%ers are complaining about it.

The middle class are evaporating like water in the desert. The rich buy the politicians and get what they want. The poor have no power.
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Old Yesterday, 06:58 PM
 
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I watched this video about the homeless problem in LA... and the problem solving seems pretty clueless to me. They are trying to treat the symptoms, but they aren't addressing the real problem of why their cost of living is so high - and trying to bring it down. But doing that would expose their liberal politics as deficient as best... criminal at worst.

Left Behind: Homeless Crisis in Los Angeles

It was claimed by a local that she knows people working full time minimum wage jobs (a supposed living wage) who live in tents. There's a lesson here for those of you who think higher minimum wages are the key to a better life.... it's not. All minimum wage hikes do is raise the cost of everything else. It's a relative scale. You raise the minimum wage... at some point, the industries will adjust themselves to the higher wages - and those making higher minimum wages will again be at the bottom of the totem pole - because those are jobs that are not high value jobs. Meanwhile, the affordability shelf just got higher and further away for those already in poverty to reach... and you now need $47/hr to afford median rent.

These cities are the definition of income inequality that liberals say is so bad. It's right there in the communities they represent, and they do nothing - both the politicians and the tons of sports and entertainment figures that have tons of money. They spend two years following a collusion hoax - that was their priority. Instead of focusing on Trump - why don't they just help the people in their own backyard?

I don't know why anyone would vote for a big city Democrat (or anyone) when they routinely overlook their own constituents.

The solution is not to simply build housing to move the problems from outside to inside. The solution needs to involve putting these people to work and earning a living - and to do that, they have to reduce the cost to operate business. They have to stop supporting illegal immigration - education, medical, food stamps - whatever. All of these things that "the state" pays for raises the cost to do business, raises the cost of food on the shelf, and raises the cost of housing.

The goal for housing is to allow the demand for housing to grow the market, which means people are making enough money to house themselves. Also, the government regulatory costs need to be lowered so the cost structure of the housing market decreases - making it more in accessible to lower income folks.

However, that does not seem to be the goal. The goal is removal of Trump. That's more important than fixing the homeless problem. They need to bring illegal voters in the country - to the detriment of its citizens - in order to hack the election system and get rid of Trump... which would lead to enacting the same policies that will make the country more like LA. How insane is that?

Any of those homeless people who don't have jobs that are within a few miles of where they are camped are nothing but BUMS. Jobless vagrants should be forced out of the city limits using vagrancy laws.
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Old Yesterday, 07:00 PM
 
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they're moving from LA to LV to SLC
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Old Yesterday, 07:00 PM
 
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It’s hopeless. Libs won’t be satisfied until every deadbeat is given a nice place to live indefinitely in any community they desire, regardless of cost of living and they must be given all the drugs they want for free.

Argue with any lib about homelessness and if they have the courage to be specific instead of the typical BS “it’s a complex situation, blah blah blah”, they will admit it.
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Old Yesterday, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Any of those homeless people who don't have jobs that are within a few miles of where they are camped are nothing but BUMS. Jobless vagrants should be forced out of the city limits using vagrancy laws.
What about those who are working but still can't afford nothing but a tent? They are out there...
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Old Yesterday, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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For the last five years I have said the only way this homeless situation will ever be solved is to have one huge complex where the old internment camps were during WWII.
This complex could provide housing, hospitals, drug, job, and emotional counseling, as well as schooling for all these homeless.
Trying to scatter them all over the state isn't working.
House them all in one location, and have enough staff on hand to take care of them.
Money could come from city, county, state, and the federal governments to once and for all, get these people off the street, where they can benefit with all the resources devoted to their care, and well being.
This is the ONLY way this homeless situation will ever be solved.

Bob.
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