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Old Today, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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I suspect many 'firsts' failed at some level.

So do we just never try again?

Interesting philosophy.
I understand your point, but reading thru the article - they have numerous issues regarding costs and design and it looks like it's over.

Nothing wrong with trying - unless they used public funds for this.

All of this stuff sounds great and utopian, until reality kicks in.
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Old Today, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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That one isn't a "solar road"-it's a lighted dance floor placed in a sidewalk. They didn't want to risk anyone actually driving on their "road" when it was built. (this happened in my town).
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Old Today, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Solar friggin roads!!

This is a proof of concept- not the final product by a long shot. Lessons are being learned here. There will be design improvements and better calculations next time.

Should the calculations look favorable, somebody will make the next (better) attempt. And so on.

We'd still be in the horse & buggy era if it was up to some folks.
It might be more cost effective to place solar panels elsewhere.
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Old Today, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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"And if that doesn't make for the least level of efficiency...then let's build the solar road at the same latitude as International Falls, Minnesota, in a place where the sun is obscured by cloud cover more than 50% of the year."

"Yeah...that's the ticket! We can waste a whole boatload of money if we do it that way!"
And the roads are covered with snow! Sounds like a GREAT idea.
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Old Today, 12:14 PM
 
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Solar is not an efficient form of energy production. It takes up way too much space for a small amount of energy to be produced. People just like the idea of solar since they assume that it's "free" energy, forgetting that solar panels and infrastructure use resources and contribute to carbon output.

Nuclear is by far the cleanest and most efficient energy source that we have today but people are scared of it.
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Old Today, 12:53 PM
 
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I suspect many 'firsts' failed at some level.

So do we just never try again?

Interesting philosophy.
There should never have been a 'first'. The numbers just didn't add up to even be worth trying.

The good thing about engineering is that there's math behind it. If the desired numbers can't be achieved, there's no need to waste money in experimentation.

Solar roads are a farce and there's many engineering videos showing why it's an impossible idea from a road perspective, energy generation perspective, and a cost perspective.

Put solar where it makes sense. In a field, on rooftops, car parks, etc. Are we out of space to cover with solar panels?

Make roads with what makes sense. Asphalt is cheap, 99% recyclable, has good traction, good durability, and lasts relatively long.
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Old Today, 01:06 PM
 
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Solar friggin roads!!

This is a proof of concept- not the final product by a long shot. Lessons are being learned here. There will be design improvements and better calculations next time.

Should the calculations look favorable, somebody will make the next (better) attempt. And so on.

We'd still be in the horse & buggy era if it was up to some folks.

Setting aside whether solar is worthwhile or not you have to be some kind of moron to think this was a good idea. Off the top of my head:


  • A solar panels lifetime is about 25 years and cost of the power it generates is reflected in that lifespan. Roads using highly durable materials don't last that long.
  • A solar panel requires sun, let's put them somewhere where it can constantly be blocked. Makes perfect sense...
  • I'm sure dirt and abrasion on the surface can't possibly reduce their efficiency.
This green politics run amok, I haven't researched it but I can tell you why the road. Because putting them in the median or the side which may actually make a lot of sense would take up green space.
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Old Today, 01:09 PM
 
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Huh. What an interesting idea. Along with roofs, there's a lot of flat space there.

It does seem like a tough environment though.
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Old Today, 01:41 PM
 
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As is the ubiquitous, It won't work., from the left regarding any effort by the Trump administration on...well, anything.

La resistance? Or, intersting philosophy?
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I suspect many 'firsts' failed at some level.

So do we just never try again?

Interesting philosophy.
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Old Today, 01:52 PM
 
Location: NC
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Solar friggin roads!!

This is a proof of concept- not the final product by a long shot. Lessons are being learned here. There will be design improvements and better calculations next time.

Should the calculations look favorable, somebody will make the next (better) attempt. And so on.

We'd still be in the horse & buggy era if it was up to some folks.
You are responding to people who don't have enough faith in America (and the rest of the world, in this case) to improve on the status quo. By nature, they have a cult-driven mandate to keep things they way they are. They listen to Trump tell us how awful we are, how bad America is, and what a disaster area we live in, and they believe it. Meanwhile, you are exactly right. Better to put your energy in solving problems, rather than arguing with people who are betting against humanity. The Trumpists don't care what happens when they are gone, as long as they can indulge for now, all is good with them.
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