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Old Yesterday, 08:03 PM
 
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None of the experts saw this coming!
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Old Yesterday, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Exactly. They didn't give up and stop using blimps, they switched to helium. Successful people welcome failure because it gives lessons on how to succeed in the next iteration.
Maybe they could give up putting them on roads and put them somewhere else b
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Old Yesterday, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Exactly. They didn't give up and stop using blimps, they switched to helium. Successful people welcome failure because it gives lessons on how to succeed in the next iteration.
To the best of my knowledge, no one is making concrete lifejackets. Know why? Because it's a stupid, impractical idea from the start. "Iterations" work better when you start with an intelligent concept.
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Old Today, 06:18 AM
 
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That one isn't a "solar road"-it's a lighted dance floor placed in a sidewalk. They didn't want to risk anyone actually driving on their "road" when it was built. (this happened in my town).
And it hasn't generated any electricity since being put in.
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Old Today, 06:20 AM
 
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Exactly. They didn't give up and stop using blimps, they switched to helium. Successful people welcome failure because it gives lessons on how to succeed in the next iteration.
The difference between blimps, rockets, and solar roads is that the engineering numbers work for the former two and not the latter. Plenty of engineers out there showing their work on why it doesn't work.

Who knew the 'Party of Science' would ignore all science when it suits their agenda?
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Old Today, 06:23 AM
 
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To the best of my knowledge, no one is making concrete lifejackets. Know why? Because it's a stupid, impractical idea from the start. "Iterations" work better when you start with an intelligent concept.
LOL! I've been racking my brain for a good analogy... concrete life jacket is PERFECT!!!
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Old Today, 09:52 AM
 
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The fact is there are plenty of roofs to use and in case you haven’t noticed massive failures like this provide political opponents with something to ridicule environmentalists and solar proponents.

You would think they could have duplicated what these tiles would go through and realized it wouldn’t work before spending all that money to provide political fodder for their opponents.
Well, we would have to study the projects to see why they did what they did, and why it was supposed to be more successful. There would have been reason(s) to think it would succeed. The roads project should have considered leaves, so I wonder if the leaves were that significant in the project failing.

You and I, lay people, can't substitute for the engineers and project managers who studied the feasibility before the project was done. We'd have to gt copies of all the blueprints, the letters, the engineering reports, the financial documents, and the like, before we could even get close to understanding what went wrong. They would probably have not been able to get financing, were it not for something to indicate there was a likelihood of success. That NEVER means, however, that success is guanteed.

Try and try again. If this doesn't work, take what was learned, and try something else. This is how it's done. This is how success has always happened.

One thing we can't do is give up.
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Old Today, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Houston
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The difference between blimps, rockets, and solar roads is that the engineering numbers work for the former two and not the latter. Plenty of engineers out there showing their work on why it doesn't work.

Who knew the 'Party of Science' would ignore all science when it suits their agenda?
It actually doesn’t suit their agenda. Massive failures like this make them look like a bunch of morons.

One of the major problems with liberals is they never recognize when their ‘solutions’ don’t work.
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Old Today, 10:49 AM
 
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Well, we would have to study the projects to see why they did what they did, and why it was supposed to be more successful. There would have been reason(s) to think it would succeed. The roads project should have considered leaves, so I wonder if the leaves were that significant in the project failing.

You and I, lay people, can't substitute for the engineers and project managers who studied the feasibility before the project was done. We'd have to gt copies of all the blueprints, the letters, the engineering reports, the financial documents, and the like, before we could even get close to understanding what went wrong. They would probably have not been able to get financing, were it not for something to indicate there was a likelihood of success. That NEVER means, however, that success is guanteed.

Try and try again. If this doesn't work, take what was learned, and try something else. This is how it's done. This is how success has always happened.

One thing we can't do is give up.
It wasn't good science that motivated their decision to waste money on solar roads... it was desperation.

They know that solar is dead when people finally realize it takes up to 500 times the real estate for solar to match nukes or fossil fuels.
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Old Today, 10:51 AM
 
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Exactly. They didn't give up and stop using blimps, they switched to helium. Successful people welcome failure because it gives lessons on how to succeed in the next iteration.

Can you post a link to blimp passenger service between NYC and say anywhere?
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