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Old Today, 11:15 AM
 
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The difference between blimps, rockets, and solar roads is that the engineering numbers work for the former two and not the latter. Plenty of engineers out there showing their work on why it doesn't work.
I question your assertion -- if the numbers didn't work at the outset, they wouldn't have gotten startup capital to begin with. That's the way it is with new tech, you have to convince funders that your idea is at least plausible enough to risk funding on a pilot project.

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Who knew the 'Party of Science' would ignore all science when it suits their agenda?
If you understood the scientific method, then you'd understand that pilot projects like this fit it perfectly. Now if politicians forge ahead with a technology that has proven multiple failures, then you'd have a point. The failure in France is a data point, not a conclusion. Jury is still out on solar roads.
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Old Today, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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I question your assertion -- if the numbers didn't work at the outset, they wouldn't have gotten startup capital to begin with. That's the way it is with new tech, you have to convince funders that your idea is at least plausible enough to risk funding on a pilot project.



If you understood the scientific method, then you'd understand that pilot projects like this fit it perfectly. Now if politicians forge ahead with a technology that has proven multiple failures, then you'd have a point. The failure in France is a data point, not a conclusion. Jury is still out on solar roads.
I am a mechanical engineer, understand the scientific method and the obvious practical reasons NOT to imbed very expensive solar panels in roadways. No decent engineer would ever propose such a thing after 10 minutes reflection. Now-if you're goal is to get grants and handouts to pull a stunt and put on a show, "Solar Freekin' Roadways" is a great way to do so. I believe they got upwards of $2 million from a crowdfunding page from technical illiterates, as well as a few million more from government grants. All to make a ~20x20" lighted dance floor-with most of the panels not working from the get-go.

This was as much of a stunt and scam as Elio Motors was. And just as obvious to anyone with any engineering or manufacturing experience. Or simply common sense.
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I question your assertion -- if the numbers didn't work at the outset, they wouldn't have gotten startup capital to begin with. That's the way it is with new tech, you have to convince funders that your idea is at least plausible enough to risk funding on a pilot project.



If you understood the scientific method, then you'd understand that pilot projects like this fit it perfectly. Now if politicians forge ahead with a technology that has proven multiple failures, then you'd have a point. The failure in France is a data point, not a conclusion. Jury is still out on solar roads.
First off, they crowd sourced the initial funding, to the tune of millions. Their literature and trendy 'solar freakin roadways' video provided no numbers.

You clearly have no experience with funding, as VERY often they go off of 'projected ' numbers. In this case, even the most generous projections are half of what traditional rooftop cost generates (see: NL solar bike path)


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This isn't the first solar road failure. The idea that things need to have a pilot project just because it sounds good or because they did thorough research is ludicrous. Look at Theranos. Billions in investment based on one person's word.

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