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Old Today, 11:44 AM
 
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How many bees are there on the planet, right now?

What's the lifespan of a bee? Ten years? Five? One? Six months?

Within that time span, pretty much ALL THE BEES IN THE WORLD will drop dead.

Reproduction saves the species, of course.

But what's the big hooraw over finding a bunch of dead bees?
Are you serious?!?

The agricultural industry is dependent upon bees. It has a direct effect on crop yields.

It's hard to believe that has to be explained to a mature adult in the 21st century.
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Old Today, 11:48 AM
 
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I have a library going of things I have to continually repost because of various environmentalist sky is falling claims that see to be weekly:

And related to and linked in that article: How Capitalism Saved the Bees

Best quote:
Reason Magazine. The Pro-libertarian source?
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Old Today, 11:53 AM
 
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Reason Magazine. The Pro-libertarian source?
Ad hominem deflection that again, refutes not one single thing in either article I linked.

Is fallacy your native language?
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Old Today, 11:54 AM
 
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Without pesticides there would be nothing for the bees to pollinate. You can thank Globalism for a big part in this. Non indigenous pests are being imported around the globe due to Globalism and there is nothing to combat them but modern pesticides. The genie is out of the bottle and there is no putting it back. Humans have screwed the pooch here...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK207515/

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As a result of the magnitude of the problem, scientists, crop producers, environmentalists, and public agencies are exploring ways to combat plant pests, beginning with preventing their entry into the United States. What might seem to be a straightforward endeavor is actually difficult. Regulating the arrival of nonindigenous species remains one of the most challenging tasks facing plant regulatory agencies today, because a major component of the global economy involves the transport of agricultural products, including the transfer of living organisms. Not only are agricultural products (such as grain, animal products, lumber, plant fibers, and cut flowers) being moved worldwide in unprecedented volume, but the use of imported germplasm that would give rise to these products in vast new markets is also increasingly widespread.
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Old Today, 11:58 AM
 
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Pesticides folks, pesticides. There's plenty of insects out in the country..lived that life for over 20 years.
Moved back to the city and hardly anything. One of the glaring things I noticed.."where are all the bugs ?"

Stop spraying...learn to live with the bugs, screen in your patio, use natural bug repellents.

The government ain't gonna step in here and fix all your problems.
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Old Today, 12:01 PM
 
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Serious question: What can be done to "solve" this "problem" without a gun being pointed at my head?

Same inquiry I have for all of OP's threads talking about environmental issues...or perceived issues I should say.
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Old Today, 12:04 PM
 
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Birds each the bees, and birds have been dying en masse as well. So, ironically, we're also killing off one of the biggest insect killers. The pesticides also kill frogs and earthworms.
There is an interesting, would be almost humorous story if it wasn't so sad, about the ecology in China long ago.

In 1950's China sparrows are seen in the crops feasting on the bounty. It had always been a farming issue in the past but now the country was struggling with poor yields and a burgeoning population and it was decided that this one remedy might improve things by some percentage. The government declared a 'war on the sparrow' and there was a mad rush to snare and kill as many of the varmints as possible. The farmers went after the nests for the most part, a most effective method.

Actually, while it is true the birds were eating grain much of what the various birds were eating was insects they would delicately pick out of the crop. They ate an enormous amount of insects.

The result was a plague of locusts and a nationwide famine. Many millions of people starved to death.
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Old Today, 12:07 PM
 
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There is an interesting, would be almost humorous story if it wasn't so sad, about the ecology in China long ago.

In 1950's China sparrows are seen in the crops feasting on the bounty. It had always been a farming issue in the past but now the country was struggling with poor yields and a burgeoning population and it was decided that this one remedy might improve things by some percentage. The government declared a 'war on the sparrow' and there was a mad rush to snare and kill as many of the varmints as possible. The farmers went after the nests for the most part, a most effective method.

Actually, while it is true the birds were eating grain much of what the various birds were eating was insects they would delicately pick out of the crop. They ate an enormous amount of insects.

The result was a plague of locusts and a nationwide famine. Many millions of people starved to death.
You have a similar situation with snakes. Snakes eat mice. Kill off the snakes and then complain that you have mice problems in your home.

The food chain is real. Upset the balance and things all get out of whack.
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Old Today, 12:11 PM
 
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Serious question: What can be done to "solve" this "problem" without a gun being pointed at my head?

Same inquiry I have for all of OP's threads talking about environmental issues...or perceived issues I should say.
I have to tell you that the OP is one of the best informed posters on C-D.

No one is expecting a solution today, from you or I, but we have to be aware of the problems. They can be challenges faced first in Brazil and later in our own back yards. We should know what is happening and find out (if possible) why. Perhaps we can learn from their experience.

You may be a naysayer, by all means be negative if that's what makes you happy, but some among us do have to ask the hard questions and point out the reality of the world we live in. There is more at stake here than winning pointless arguments.
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Old Today, 12:12 PM
 
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There is an interesting, would be almost humorous story if it wasn't so sad, about the ecology in China long ago.

In 1950's China sparrows are seen in the crops feasting on the bounty. It had always been a farming issue in the past but now the country was struggling with poor yields and a burgeoning population and it was decided that this one remedy might improve things by some percentage. The government declared a 'war on the sparrow' and there was a mad rush to snare and kill as many of the varmints as possible. The farmers went after the nests for the most part, a most effective method.

Actually, while it is true the birds were eating grain much of what the various birds were eating was insects they would delicately pick out of the crop. They ate an enormous amount of insects.

The result was a plague of locusts and a nationwide famine. Many millions of people starved to death.
Did you just inadvertently support the State taking no action on the bee "problem" by referencing Mao's Great Leap Forward?
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