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Old 08-21-2019, 12:17 PM
 
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It can't ... that's the whole point. The Bible tells an interesting story to this point. The man deemed crazy in his day, was building an Ark, claiming a flood was coming and the people mocked and laughed at him ... the question is, who do you believe?

There are more ways than the one for carbon to be released into the atmosphere depleting the planet of oxygen ... living creatures can not breathe/live without oxygen, so when the day comes and we can't breathe ... that will be the day, we will figure it out on who was telling and what the truth is.

The dinosaurs did not know they were going extinct; neither will man.
Cool... climate porn for crazy people!!!

(Relax! You've got 5 billion years before you need to worry about oxygen depletion.)
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:19 PM
 
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A historian should write a book about the history of climate denial. Just for the record.
How many people don't believe there is a climate?

Or, are you asking how many people believe the climate doesn't change, because most people who have taken a fairly basic science course knows earth's climate is not stagnate but has been changing for billions of years.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:22 PM
 
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So, in effect, AGW is just a big complaint session by liberals with no viable solution. The good thing is that CO2 is not a pollutant, but an essential componant of life.
Water is essential to life. So I dare you to chug 3 gallons of water within 5 minutes and see what happens
(don't actually do that).
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:26 PM
 
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A historian should write a book about the history of climate denial. Just for the record.
You confidently presume that "climate deniers" (we call skepticism health in real science, but not cults) are ignorant and devoid of any scientific knowledge. However, there are MANY well respected physicists who believe that man made induced climate change is bunk.


Unlike real science, those who question this very flawed hypothesis are vilified, as would a medieval mob hunting down witches.


Your AGW hypothesis is beyond absurd, as it defies the known laws of physics and the fossil record, which are the two best mean of evaluating climate. No other valid hypothesis requires data manipulation and fraud to support the premise- actual true scientific phenomenon will be supported by additional data, unlike AGW.


One hundred years from now (speaking of history), people will look back in amusement at those so foolish to cling to the AGW concept, much as we look back in disbelief at those who believed in witches and evil vapors.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:28 PM
 
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Water is essential to life. So I dare you to chug 3 gallons of water within 5 minutes and see what happens
(don't actually do that).
Poor analogy... especially when we have commercial growers pumping CO2 at 1200 ppm into their greenhouses to grow their crops.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:37 PM
 
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Poor analogy... especially when we have commercial growers pumping CO2 at 1200 ppm into their greenhouses to grow their crops.

https://skepticalscience.com/Increas...or-plants.html
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1. The worse problem, by far, is that increasing CO2 will increase temperatures throughout the Earth. This will make deserts and other types of dry land grow. While deserts increase in size, other eco-zones, whether tropical, forest or grassland will try to migrate towards the poles. However, soil conditions will not necessarily favor their growth even at optimum temperatures.

2. CO2 enhanced plants will need extra water both to maintain their larger growth as well as to compensate for greater moisture evaporation as the heat increases. Where will it come from? Rainwater is not sufficient for current agriculture and the aquifers they rely on are running dry throughout the Earth (1, 2).

On the other hand, as predicted by Global Warming, we are receiving intense storms with increased rain throughout of the world. One would think that this should be good for agriculture. Unfortunately, when rain falls down very quickly, it does not have time to soak into the ground. Instead, it builds up above the soil then floods causing damage to the crops. The water also floods into creeks, then rivers, and finally out into the ocean carrying off large amounts of soil and fertilizer.

3. Unlike Nature, our way of agriculture does not self fertilize by recycling all dead plants, animals and their waste. Instead we have to be constantly producing artificial fertilizers from natural gas which will eventually start running out. By increasing the need for such fertilizer you will shorten the supply of natural gas creating competition between the heating of our homes and the growing of our food. This will drive the prices of both up.

4. Too high a concentration of CO2 causes a reduction of photosynthesis in certain of plants. There is also evidence from the past of major damage to a wide variety of plants species from a sudden rise in CO2 (See illustrations below). Higher concentrations of CO2 also reduce the nutritional quality of some staples, such as wheat.

5. When plants do benefit from increased Carbon Dioxide, it is only in enclosed areas, strictly isolated from insects. However, when the growth of Soybeans is boosted out in the open, it creates major changes in its chemistry that makes it more vulnerable to insects, as the illustration below shows.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:39 PM
 
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Climate change doesn't care if you believe or not it is happening. If you are over fifty years old you will have seen drastic weather changes in your short lifetime. Today we have constant fires in CA, 1000 year floods in the farm belt, and tornadoes in NJ. For most of the US spring and fall are only a cherished memory. In the mid-atlantic states the gentle rains of spring now replaced with violent thunderstorms and more tornadoes than ever recorded. Fall is now a week or two long and is like going from 90 one day to 30 the next. As CC progresses you can count on seeing holes at your grocery stores with steady increases in meats and processed foods. The US is now experiencing billion dollar losses on a weekly basis and this year we haven't seen a major hurricane yet. Climate change is now being felt around the globe with ever increasing devastating effects.

You can continue to fool yourself, but what will you tell your child or grandchild when they ask, "why didn't you do something?"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77JtkWdToSU
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:42 PM
 
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Climate change doesn't care if you believe or not it is happening. If you are over fifty years old you will have seen drastic weather changes in your short lifetime. Today we have constant fires in CA, 1000 year floods in the farm belt, and tornadoes in NJ. For most of the US spring and fall are only a cherished memory. In the mid-atlantic states the gentle rains of spring now replaced with violent thunderstorms and more tornadoes than ever recorded. Fall is now a week or two long and is like going from 90 one day to 30 the next. As CC progresses you can count on seeing holes at your grocery stores with steady increases in meats and processed foods. The US is now experiencing billion dollar losses on a weekly basis and this year we haven't seen a major hurricane yet. Climate change is now being felt around the globe with ever increasing devastating effects.

You can continue to fool yourself, but what will you tell your child or grandchild when they ask, "why didn't you do something?"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77JtkWdToSU
Climate change.

Now, please explain how that proves climate change is not naturally occurring.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:44 PM
 
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Data? Real time?

You charlatans are actually showing how warped your nonsense is on your own.

I don't like winters here in the NE USA, let me know when they're canceled,; there's no doubt this warming hysteria will quiet down in a few months.

GW theory also predicts more severe weather.


How'd ya like Sandy?
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:46 PM
 
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Hoax news




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