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Old 08-21-2019, 06:18 PM
 
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How else would you describe people that are more loyal to a political party, than their people's country.

You do know that Trump was saying these people were disloyal to Israel right?
Are you saying Trump thinks some americans should be more loyal to a foreign country than their own?
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:29 PM
 
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Are you saying Trump thinks some americans should be more loyal to a foreign country than their own?
No, I, nor President Trump are saying that.

He's pointing out that they are more loyal to a political party.

Your attempt to purposely push something that neither I, nor the President said, was as clumsy, as it was unethical.
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:34 PM
 
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No, I, nor President Trump are saying that.

He's pointing out that they are more loyal to a political party.

Your attempt to purposely push something that neither I, nor the President said, was as clumsy, as it was unethical.
No. You are playing word games. their allegiance to an american political party has everything to do with what they believe in their country and the course it should take.

You are taking up Trumps side because you always do and refuse to logically look at the matter. this despite the heavy criticism he is coming under from jewish american leaders.
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:43 PM
 
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No, I, nor President Trump are saying that.

He's pointing out that they are more loyal to a political party.

Your attempt to purposely push something that neither I, nor the President said, was as clumsy, as it was unethical.
One need only read the many posts on this forum and Trump's point is made valid. The my party wrong or right has long ago replaced the my country wrong or right crowd. Many on here absolutely believe that only their party is right. The either for us or against us mentality. They are so blind that they will actually defend and excuse anyone from their own party regardless of sin. NO? Look how many defend Bill Clinton. Look how many pretend that Hillary is a good person. Look how many were and still are in a tizzy over Trump's taxes but were either quiet or made excuses for Rangel when he got caught cheating on his taxes, when he was head of the ways and means committee..

They were about Trumps waste, but made excuses for Obama's. They worry about the deficit but cheered as Obama doubled it in a few short years. By the way, what happened to all those shovel ready jobs that the left promised? Record waste is what we got. Obama's 1 trillion dollar F-35? LOL

So 1 jewish congress critter and 1 Vet blasts Trump?

Hmmmmmm How many Congress critters and Vets blasted Obama? LOL. OHHHHH wait I get it. It has to be a jewish Congress critter? None of the others matter?

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Old 08-21-2019, 06:45 PM
 
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One need only read the many posts on this forum and Trump's point is made valid. The my party wrong or right has long ago replaced the my country wrong or right crowd. Many on here absolutely believe that only their party is right. The either for us or against us mentality. They are so blind that they will actually defend and excuse anyone from their own party regardless of sin. NO? Look how many defend Bill Clinton. Look how many pretend that Hillary is a good person. Look how many were and still are in a tizzy over Trump's taxes but were either quiet or made excuses for Rnagel when he got caught cheating on his taxes, when he was head of the ways and means committee..

They were about Trumps waste, but made excuses for Obama's. They worry about the deficit but cheered as Obama doubled it in a few short years. By the way, what happened to all those shovel ready jobs that the left promised? Record waste is what we got. Obama's 1 trillion dollar F-35? LOL

So 1 jewish congress critter and 1 Vet blasts Trump?

Hmmmmmm How many Congress critters and Vets blasted Obama? LOL. OHHHHH wait I get it. It has to be a jewish Congress critter? None of the others matter?
And you are all above that? Especially after this one sided post. Lol.
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:49 PM
 
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No. You are playing word games. their allegiance to an american political party has everything to do with what they believe in their country and the course it should take.

You are taking up Trumps side because you always do and refuse to logically look at the matter. this despite the heavy criticism he is coming under from jewish american leaders.
Well of course they would, they just got called out by the President that they are more loyal to a political party.
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:50 PM
 
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And you are all above that? Especially after this one sided post. Lol.
Never said I was, everyone has some bias, but I will definitely Hammer either party or any politician. That post was in regard to the thread that (A) Jewish Congress critter and (A) Vet blasted Trump.

So what if they did. Trump's point is valid and that is sad because he is an idiot on most occasions. Look at the partisan posts on this form. My party wrong or right. No maybe to it. With us or against us. I am proud to be an Independent. I would be embarrassed to be a democrat or a republican.

I stand by that post and it is accurate. So what part of my post was inaccurate?
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:50 PM
 
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Where are the peanuts? Looks like the mental gymnastics are gonna beginning to be quite the spectacle today..
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:50 PM
 
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Well of course they would, they just got called out by the President that they are more loyal to a political party.
Yes. Trump wants jewish americans to deny their loyalty to the U.S. You are correct.
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:51 PM
 
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Well of course they would, they just got called out by the President that they are more loyal to a political party.
Wait. The president called out the republicans?
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