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Old 08-21-2019, 11:20 AM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Itís not because of Hurricane Harvey, itís because a large percentage of the students attending the school qualify for free and reduced lunch. Itís part of the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010.

USDA|School Meals: Community Eligibility Provision
Stop that **** right now. You know no one wants to hear it, it's more fun to talk about stuff they have no idea about like government schools.
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:20 AM
 
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Reagan doubled the Dept of Education. No Republican since--other than Ron Paul--has even campaigned on abolishing it. GOPers are every bit as guilty as libs.

How about we completely abolish government schools and let parents handle their kids' educations?
And I constantly complain about the spending habit of the GOP.

So, if both parties are guilty, does that make it right?
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:21 AM
 
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Stop that **** right now. You know no one wants to hear it, it's more fun to talk about stuff they have no idea about like government schools.
Soooo, you're claiming that he money to fund free food for EVERY student in my district didn't come from a federal grant due to Hurricane Harvey?
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:00 PM
 
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Itís not because of Hurricane Harvey, itís because a large percentage of the students attending the school qualify for free and reduced lunch. Itís part of the Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010.

USDA|School Meals: Community Eligibility Provision
That is an informative site. But check out one that spells out the requirements for the schools

Last time i checked the rues said that the district must verify 3% of the applications or 3000, whichever is less. They could check them all.

No sane or civil American wants to see kids go hungry. Some of us would like to see the games stopped and just consider lunch part of what is provided by schools.

But the districts have learned they get all kinds of extra funding for economically disadvantage students. That number comes from the kids on reduced and free lunch. So it is to the school district's advantage to verify as few as possible.

I don't know where you live, but my state has a vast underground economy. I know women who keep their verifiable income just a tad below what would qualify them for aid. Since they are not married to the children's father, there is no tax record. The contractors are not licensed, no state income tax. The contractors tell me all they have to do is take my check to the bank it is written on and there is no way to verify they got paid that $14000.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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I live in an area impacted pretty hard by Hurricane Harvey two years ago.

Our school district has once again received federal grant money to continue providing free breakfast and free lunches.

Now, I can kind of understand allowing families to apply for and receive such assistance (kind of) who have lost practically everything; however, just like last year, ALL students receive free breakfast and free lunch regardless if you had any losses or not.

When people, and schools, are offered stuff for free, it's hard to blame them for taking it. My problem is with the federal government continuing to take tax money from people in places like Arizona or Maine and using it to provide free food for two years to my kids. We CHOSE to move to a place where hurricanes are pretty much guaranteed, so it's my belief that since we CHOSE to take that risk people in other places shouldn't be on the hook for my CHOICE to take that risk.

Obviously, this isn't something that is going to be unique. I'd bet good money the federal government gives away billions upon billions of dollar via such programs.

BTW, no, my kids are not eating the free lunches, we pack lunches for them each day.

Go to your bedroom, get down on your knees, and thank God for the good fortune you have had. Also pray for the people who DO need a helping hand, and whose only meal during the day may be that "free" meal they get at school.

It is so easy to criticize others, but, unless we walk in their shoes, we have no idea what we are talking about.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:10 PM
 
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Last time i checked the rues said that the district must verify 3% of the applications or 3000, whichever is less. They could check them all.
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Heck, it's probably cheaper to feed 100% of kids than it is to verify the 3%.

If you are going to run a jobs program so that your brother-in-law can get a gig, I'd rather they hired lunch ladies than apparatchiks.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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And I constantly complain about the spending habit of the GOP.

So, if both parties are guilty, does that make it right?
Nope.

Hence why I am an anarcho-capitalist.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:22 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Soooo, you're claiming that he money to fund free food for EVERY student in my district didn't come from a federal grant due to Hurricane Harvey?
Have no idea but probably not. It's difficult to know without knowing where you are. You may very well be in a high poverty area which may or may not be related to the hurricane. The school meals program was expanded during the Obama Administration.

https://www.fns.usda.gov/school-meals/faqs
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:29 PM
 
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How many of those free meals go to the millions and millions of illegalsí kids?
I would never want ANY child to go hungry, but again, another way we taxpayers are subsidizing businesses so they can make bigger profits with their cheap labor.
Some of the rules got changed.
Remember that income sheet you had to fill out for your kids to see if they qualified for free/reduced lunch ? And only those that did got the free/reduced lunch.

Well now, if a school has 40% of the students receiving some type of welfare benefit the entire school gets free lunch.
It's called "universal free lunch"
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:36 PM
 
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Some of the rules got changed.
Remember that income sheet you had to fill out for your kids to see if they qualified for free/reduced lunch ? And only those that did got the free/reduced lunch.

Well now, if a school has 40% of the students receiving some type of welfare benefit the entire school gets free lunch.
It's called "universal free lunch"
Glad to hear that. I know my district does breakfast. They also are looking to buy food trucks to go into the neighborhoods on days when there is no school.
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