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Old 08-21-2019, 12:02 PM
 
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Are you claiming the budget isn't put together by the House?
No, i'm just betting you weren't so quick to "school" right wingers who were incessantly attacking Obama over the same issue.

Just a guess.

this bunch put together an entire fake political party based mostly around this premise, which mysteriously disappeared when Trump took office.

Mysteriously.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Online
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GOP motto has been party before country.

But I agree that the debt/deficit is in the toilet (in comparison with Obama era) and not a peep from these "fine" folks.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:03 PM
 
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Where were the Democrats and the MEDIA when Obama had the huge deficits then ran up the debt larger than any other previous President COMBINED? Crickets. Those Trillions in the "stimulus" went to Unions, and Cronies. NOT shovel ready jobs.
At very least, Trump has something to show for the spending.....
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Then, after Democrats managed to ram through increased spending over Reagan's veto, they spent the next thirty-five years talking about Reagan deficits and the failure of trickle-down economics.
GDP growth under Reagan: 3%

GDP growth under Clinton: 4%

Hmm.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:04 PM
 
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The part of the pattern you are missing:

Democrats don't care about the deficits. They just take exception to the fact that republicans only care about the deficit when the dems are in office.

Sort of like Democrats don't care about "traditional" morals and values. They just take exception to the fact that republicans don't either.................. unless of course it's a democrat that's not displaying them.
That's pretty much the case.

Either that or complain about 'austerity' in the cases where countries aren't going enough in the hole.

Once the bond market peters out, you can just pay for current operations via inflation.

Eventually the currency collapses. Twas ever thus. If we weren't using computers, we'd be adding base metals to coinage.

I think it takes a special sort of culture to actually balance the books, and the declining remnants of US culture ain't one of them.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:11 PM
 
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You know-if Dems are actually concerned, it would be really nice if they would come up with some suggestions on where to cut from our horribly overblown federal spending budget. What programs to we slash and eliminate? Just curious-we've had some debates from the 2020 Dem primary candidates-do you recall which ones proposed spending cuts-and where? Do we cut aid to foreign nations? Stop providing handouts to illegals? Stop funding "refugees"? Close the detention centers and dump the residents across the border in Mexico? Perhaps slash Medicaid spending? Shut down the Dept. of Education? Eliminate the EPA? Just would like to hear some of the ideas of the anti-Trumpers. We have record revenue-but in spite of that our spending has grown even faster. Where do we slash?
Telling that the military doesn't even enter the equation for your suggestions.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:13 PM
 
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Apparently you haven't been paying attention to what the Democrats are proposing:

Medicare for all
Open borders
healthcare for illegals
reparations


Are you serious?
Yes, historical results speak for themselves.

At least with the Medicare for all notion and such they are proposing ways to pay for it as well. Rather than increasing spending and reducing taxation at the same time.

Not that it would ever happen anyway without a filibuster proof legislature.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:15 PM
 
Location: USA
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At very least, Trump has something to show for the spending.....
Yes, historically low unemployment and better GDP growth.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Iím noticing a pattern, when Obama was in office republicans obsessed about deficits and democrats were silent. Now itís the opposite with Trump.
Exhibit A of why politics is a pointless endeavor.

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Rand Paul is about the only one that seems serious about cutting spending, we need more Pauls to do anything.
Thomas Massie > Rand Paul

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If a far left democrat takes office and somehow enacts universal healthcare and ďfreeĒ education among other crazy policies, you can forget about the deficit.
Trump is a far left Democrat.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
You know-if Dems are actually concerned, it would be really nice if they would come up with some suggestions on where to cut from our horribly overblown federal spending budget. What programs to we slash and eliminate? Just curious-we've had some debates from the 2020 Dem primary candidates-do you recall which ones proposed spending cuts-and where? Do we cut aid to foreign nations? Stop providing handouts to illegals? Stop funding "refugees"? Close the detention centers and dump the residents across the border in Mexico? Perhaps slash Medicaid spending? Shut down the Dept. of Education? Eliminate the EPA? Just would like to hear some of the ideas of the anti-Trumpers. We have record revenue-but in spite of that our spending has grown even faster. Where do we slash?
You know--if cons and MAGAs had any intellectual and/or moral consistency, they'd listen to the libertarians.

To answer your question--ALL of it. Federal spending should be $0.
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