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Old Today, 05:55 AM
 
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No. In fact it upsets me that so many working Americans pay no income tax. Unfortunately this has gotten worse under Trump because he doubled the child tax credit.
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Old Today, 06:27 AM
 
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Libs and lefties need not respond, because we all know what your answer will be.

Do you, or do you not, believe that taxation is theft? If not, why?
NO. I passed civics 101!
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Old Today, 07:08 AM
 
Location: SGV
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Trump is a moderate, it's why he won and will win again. Pure capitalism or Socialism are huge disasters...we need a balance....I prefer our 40% confiscation ( I think it's actually about 25-30%) to Denmark's 60% but somewhere in that range should give us a chance to do well.
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No. In fact it upsets me that so many working Americans pay no income tax. Unfortunately this has gotten worse under Trump because he doubled the child tax credit.
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NO. I passed civics 101!
Three more MAGAs showing their love for Marx.

One more and the OP wins a toaster oven!
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Old Today, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Trump is a moderate, it's why he won and will win again. Pure capitalism or Socialism are huge disasters...we need a balance....I prefer our 40% confiscation ( I think it's actually about 25-30%) to Denmark's 60% but somewhere in that range should give us a chance to do well.
Pure capitalism is the only solution.

It's 40% when you figure in property, sales, capital gains, etc.

Trump sure has made socialism acceptable to Republicans, hasn't he?
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Old Today, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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NO. I passed civics 101!
You obviously failed economics 101.

Another leftist MAGA.
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Old Today, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Three more MAGAs showing their love for Marx.

One more and the OP wins a toaster oven!
To paraphrase the late Dennis Green:

“They are who we thought they were!”

MAGA = communism
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Old Today, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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Trump is a moderate, it's why he won and will win again. Pure capitalism or Socialism are huge disasters...we need a balance....I prefer our 40% confiscation ( I think it's actually about 25-30%) to Denmark's 60% but somewhere in that range should give us a chance to do well.
To me Trump is further right than moderate mostly because of his xenophobia, isolationism, and his attacks on the free press. His tax-cuts, deregulation, attack on ACA, and SCOTUS picks are standard Republican fare. It remains to be seen what he does with gun control. His only left tendencies are the trade wars.

I am curious who you think is more right of Trump? And why you think he is moderate right?
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Old Today, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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To me Trump is further right than moderate mostly because of his xenophobia, isolationism, and his attacks on the free press. His tax-cuts, deregulation, attack on ACA, and SCOTUS picks are standard Republican fare. It remains to be seen what he does with gun control. His only left tendencies are the trade wars.

I am curious who you think is more right of Trump? And why you think he is moderate right?
Trump is the most socialist President since FDR. He is in no way, shape, or form right-wing.
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Old Today, 09:46 AM
 
Location: SGV
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Willing to drop a nuclear weapon on United States soil?

Google The Enola Gay. And World War 2.
Can you just watch the video?

It would be much simpler.

I'm going to butcher it and leave out details but here it goes...

All wars, especially since the Napoleonic Wars, have been fought at the behest of central banks to either protect or expand markets for their currencies and influence in general.

We now know that the Fed and BOE heavily funded the Nazis and Hitler as far back as immediately following WWI. The German State was forced to pay the cost of WWI and needed money for war debt relief. This is a common theme in history (see the reasons why King George Washington, the omnipotent founding father , was ready and willing to slaughter farmers near Pittsburgh during the Whiskey Rebellion).

The Fed and BOE, obviously, funded the Allies as well. Another common theme in history. See, the central banks need war. They need war debt to create a "desperate customer" and to change/expand their markets (I don't like using the word markets because it implies a capitalist endeavor which is pure freedom...this paradigm here is pure slavery...plain and simple) from time to time to ensure that individuals and even governments don't create their own banking system.

Show me a major State war and I'll show you the central banks funding it...both sides actually. In fact, there hasn't been a major conflict in the world not funded, on both sides, by the Rothschilds since they rose to power in the banking cartel.

That's why they came after Hitler (and you would know this if you had just watched the video). It wasn't because he hated/slaughtered Jews. It was because he wanted the German people to have their own bank and not use a centralized private bank like the Federal Reserve or BOE.

The banks felt betrayed by Hitler. They funded him and had helped build the "German Miracle" (watch video or Google for more info) but he refused to turn his country over to the private bank cartels.

That is why I said the Fed and BOE dropped the bombs on Japan. The State actors only create the war debt and realign markets for the central banking cartels by carrying out the wars (and why I said us peasants pay in through our wallets and lives). Had Germany beat the U.S. in building the bomb it would have been dropped on Anytown, USA. On the very same people who had funded its research and development in Berlin via taxes paid to the U.S. government which then went to the Federal Reserve.

All the "assassinations", "Pearl Harbors", and "incidents" between two State actors (Gulf of Tonkin, Lusitania) are either exaggerated, highly manipulated, or downright false. We know this now. Hell, some of it is so overwhelming it even manages to make it into the State indoctrination centers' curriculum.

I hope this clears things up. Watching the video is a good primer.

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Old Today, 09:48 AM
 
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To paraphrase the late Dennis Green:

“They are who we thought they were!”

MAGA = communism
I love the clip of Green during that press conference. I'm stealing it from you.

Well, call it "borrowing". See, I can redefine words to hide my nefarious agenda too. I learned it from MAGAs.



EDIT: In all fairness to Brother Marx, who actually did formulate communism as an apolitical philosophy on paper (remember, he said the end result of communism was a stateless society...after you get through the preordained violence), MAGAs are "state communists" or "crony capitalists" or "corporatists". They have no desire to see the State disappear. Like all good socialists they just want it to do its bidding for their causes and to line their coffers.

A lot of nuance and things get lost in translation here. In the end it doesn't matter though. You either stand with non-aggression & property rights or you don't. Team Red and Team Blue clearly don't so I don't care what we call them. "Evil" is fine by me.

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