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Old Today, 10:55 AM
 
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Trump is the most socialist President since FDR. He is in no way, shape, or form right-wing.
You never heard of Obama, Carter and probably the worst socialist since FDR LBJ ?

You are carrying water for the left.
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Old Today, 12:20 PM
 
Location: SGV
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You never heard of Obama, Carter and probably the worst socialist since FDR LBJ ?

You are carrying water for the left.
Damn.

I wanted to be accused of being on Team Blue.

I'm jealous of OP.

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Old Today, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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You never heard of Obama, Carter and probably the worst socialist since FDR LBJ ?

You are carrying water for the left.
Trump is even worse than LBJ.

I'm not the one advocating for income theft and giving a sob story about his elderly mother to justify it.
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Old Today, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Damn.

I wanted to be accused of being on Team Blue.

I'm jealous of OP.

MAGAs love to project.

They hate being exposed for what they are.
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Old Today, 01:12 PM
 
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Libs and lefties need not respond, because we all know what your answer will be.

Do you, or do you not, believe that taxation is theft? If not, why?

Of course taxes aren't theft. There needs to be some way to fund the government (and, yes, I know you're an anarchist and disagree) and taxes are a legal mechanism of securing such funding. The operative word being "legal". Theft, by definition, is a crime. There are no criminal laws against taxation. If you don't like it, you're free to relocate to a country with no taxes. Good luck with that.
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Old Today, 01:20 PM
 
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Pure capitalism is the only solution.

It's 40% when you figure in property, sales, capital gains, etc.

Trump sure has made socialism acceptable to Republicans, hasn't he?

In addition to apparently missing civics class in high school, you ditched history as well. You do realize taxes existed long before Trump was president, right? Also, taxes and socialism are two entirely different things. I'm not sure why you think making up nonsensical facts constitutes rational discourse.
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Old Today, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Can you just watch the video?

It would be much simpler.

I'm going to butcher it and leave out details but here it goes...

All wars, especially since the Napoleonic Wars, have been fought at the behest of central banks to either protect or expand markets for their currencies and influence in general.

We now know that the Fed and BOE heavily funded the Nazis and Hitler as far back as immediately following WWI. The German State was forced to pay the cost of WWI and needed money for war debt relief. This is a common theme in history (see the reasons why King George Washington, the omnipotent founding father , was ready and willing to slaughter farmers near Pittsburgh during the Whiskey Rebellion).

The Fed and BOE, obviously, funded the Allies as well. Another common theme in history. See, the central banks need war. They need war debt to create a "desperate customer" and to change/expand their markets (I don't like using the word markets because it implies a capitalist endeavor which is pure freedom...this paradigm here is pure slavery...plain and simple) from time to time to ensure that individuals and even governments don't create their own banking system.

Show me a major State war and I'll show you the central banks funding it...both sides actually. In fact, there hasn't been a major conflict in the world not funded, on both sides, by the Rothschilds since they rose to power in the banking cartel.

[b]That's why they came after Hitler (and you would know this if you had just watched the video). It wasn't because he hated/slaughtered Jews. It was because he wanted the German people to have their own bank and not use a centralized private bank like the Federal Reserve or BOE.

The banks felt betrayed by Hitler. They funded him and had helped build the "German Miracle" (watch video or Google for more info) but he refused to turn his country over to the private bank cartels.

That is why I said the Fed and BOE dropped the bombs on Japan. The State actors only create the war debt and realign markets for the central banking cartels by carrying out the wars (and why I said us peasants pay in through our wallets and lives). Had Germany beat the U.S. in building the bomb it would have been dropped on Anytown, USA. On the very same people who had funded its research and development in Berlin via taxes paid to the U.S. government which then went to the Federal Reserve.

All the "assassinations", "Pearl Harbors", and "incidents" between two State actors (Gulf of Tonkin, Lusitania) are either exaggerated, highly manipulated, or downright false. We know this now. Hell, some of it is so overwhelming it even manages to make it into the State indoctrination centers' curriculum.

I hope this clears things up. Watching the video is a good primer.
You seem to know your history, however I can't really take this too seriously if you really think Hitler didn't hate Jews. He wanted a "special" race of people and to dominate the world, Jews were inferior to him and he blamed them for a lot.
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Old Today, 02:02 PM
 
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Trump is even worse than LBJ.

I'm not the one advocating for income theft and giving a sob story about his elderly mother to justify it.
LBJ did more permanent damage to this country than FDR and possible every other Democrat president.

Trump is probably the best President we had since FDR.

It's not a sob story about my mother. It's the reality about the very elderly.
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Old Today, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Of course taxes aren't theft. There needs to be some way to fund the government (and, yes, I know you're an anarchist and disagree) and taxes are a legal mechanism of securing such funding. The operative word being "legal". Theft, by definition, is a crime. There are no criminal laws against taxation. If you don't like it, you're free to relocate to a country with no taxes. Good luck with that.
The taking of another's property without consent is by definition theft, which is a crime.

Where should I move? And why should I have to?
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Old Today, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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In addition to apparently missing civics class in high school, you ditched history as well. You do realize taxes existed long before Trump was president, right? Also, taxes and socialism are two entirely different things. I'm not sure why you think making up nonsensical facts constitutes rational discourse.
The income tax was passed in 1913, so of course I realize they existed before Trump.

But the one thing Trump has done is bring the socialist tendencies of Republicans to the surface.

All government is socialism, and all taxation is theft. Period.
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