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Old 08-21-2019, 08:15 PM
 
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I hope this is eliminated as well, but we probably should push for an amendment since there is really not anything Trump can do with an EO.

We should define birthright citizenship to legal residents. No more tourists or illegal residents. Babies born to parents in limbo (like asylum seekers), will get their citizenship if their mother's asylum status is granted.

The idea that you get American citizenship based on the latitude and longitude of your mother's p*ssy is one of the dumbest things I can think of.
The 14th amendment might sound good on its face to some but it's one of the dumbest and most misinterpreted of all. Why it wasn't amended by 1924 is an oversight. Now it will never get amended.
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:52 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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The prospect of ending 'birthright' evidently horrifies liberals. Page after page of blather about buying Denmark (!!) and so forth.
But not a word on whether it may be a good idea, or if not, why not. Nary a word.
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:59 PM
 
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The 14th amendment might sound good on its face to some but it's one of the dumbest and most misinterpreted of all. Why it wasn't amended by 1924 is an oversight. Now it will never get amended.
I can understand why they made this oversight. Back in their day there really was no such thing as illegal immigration, so they could not envision. Hence ambiguously worded 14th amendment - it aimed at making citizens of slaves so their rights could not be taken away.

But now all former slaves and their descendants are citizens. We should pass an amendment. But Democrats know their future power goes through making illegal border jumpers into "Americans." So it will be hard. But I think it can be done - Trump won 32 states and there are 2 states that he lost that I think would be on board (New Hampshire, Maine).
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:00 PM
 
Location: too far from the sea
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The prospect of ending 'birthright' evidently horrifies liberals. Page after page of blather about buying Denmark (!!) and so forth.
But not a word on whether it may be a good idea, or if not, why not. Nary a word.

OK. Maybe it's a good idea. It's something worth looking at.

And the former prime minister of Denmark said Trump must be a madman, lol. That's how dumb it is to waste time speculating about buying Greenland.

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Old 08-21-2019, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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So, screw the constitution. Got it.
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Supreme Court has already spoken. United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 1898

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/169/649

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...._Wong_Kim_Ark
The difference is that Wong Kim Ark's parents were here legally when he was born.
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Places you dream of
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Is this before or after he buys Greenland?
He can buy what ever he can afford -but as long as he permanently moves there, Iím ok with it !
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Places you dream of
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The difference is that Wong Kim Ark's parents were here legally when he was born.
Did the kid have a choice No ? Then why make the baby suffer?
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I can understand why they made this oversight. Back in their day there really was no such thing as illegal immigration, so they could not envision. Hence ambiguously worded 14th amendment - it aimed at making citizens of slaves so their rights could not be taken away.

But now all former slaves and their descendants are citizens. We should pass an amendment. But Democrats know their future power goes through making illegal border jumpers into "Americans." So it will be hard. But I think it can be done - Trump won 32 states and there are 2 states that he lost that I think would be on board (New Hampshire, Maine).
Can't rep you again, sorry. Spot on.
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:37 PM
 
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He's distracting from the negative economy. The news got out about him wanting to cut payroll taxes due to a tanking economy. And also other things related to the economy tanking.

He needed to switch the top news story away from the economy. And away from him caving to the NRA.

First he starts the Greenland story. Now birthright citizenship. Both just distractions. He's very good at creating top news stories and the press focuses all their energy on the story that he created as a distraction.

Yes!

another flashbomb to distract.
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:41 PM
 
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I can understand why they made this oversight. Back in their day there really was no such thing as illegal immigration, so they could not envision. Hence ambiguously worded 14th amendment - it aimed at making citizens of slaves so their rights could not be taken away.
Yes there was no illegals and no mass immigration or really much of any immigration that wasn't European in 1868. But by the time WKA was decided and immigration from Asia and other excluded zones was banned, illegal immigration became a legal class, etc there was a huge oversight by 1924 not to amend the citizenship clause.
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