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Old 08-21-2019, 09:43 PM
 
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It's probably going to come sometime after the tax cut, a massive roll-back of regulations, the appointment of conservative judges, recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, a withdrawal from the Paris Climate agreement, a travel ban from certain extremist countries, pulling out of Trans-Pac agreement, and a roll-back of Cuban policies....
Right after all those things are finished. Which they are.


(Cute how you referenced "buying Denmark". You are the only person in America who even bothers to pretend that was intended.)
Wasn't it Greenland he wanted to buy? Nobody wants Denmark obviously

Tel-Aviv is still the capital of Israhell last I checked, regardless of where the US decides to put it's embassy.
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Old 08-21-2019, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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The difference is that Wong Kim Ark's parents were here legally when he was born.
Doesn't matter. Plyer vs. Doe (1982) has reaffirmed that native born citizens are entitled to US citizenship regardless of the status of their parents.
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Old 08-21-2019, 10:18 PM
 
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Doesn't matter. Plyer vs. Doe (1982) has reaffirmed that native born citizens are entitled to US citizenship regardless of the status of their parents.
That's not what that decision was about. It was about equal protection clause, not citizenship clause. It was a BS decision that illegal aliens get public education but it did not address citizenship.
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Homeless
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But he’s okay with Melania parents using chain migration to come here.
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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But he’s okay with Melania parents using chain migration to come here.
Don't the rich Democrats always say change the law and we will pay more taxes but not before?
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:35 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Nah. United States vs. Wong Kim Ark establishes birthright citizenship as the law of the land.
WKA never mentioned illegal aliens. SCOTUS ruled only that those born to domiciled (legal) US residents were birthright citizens. Illegal aliens aren't domiciled (legal) residents. Their legal domicile is the country from which they illegally emigrated.
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Gaston, South Carolina
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He;ll flip flop on this like he has done time and again with background checks on gun purchases.
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:44 PM
 
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The 14th amendment might sound good on its face to some but it's one of the dumbest and most misinterpreted of all. Why it wasn't amended by 1924 is an oversight. Now it will never get amended.
Interesting comment. I'm assuming you're referring to the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924?

That's another example of why we know the 14th Amendment didn't automatically convey birthright citizenship on those who are born in the US to a parent(s) who are citizens/subjects of foreign sovereigns.

Read current US Nationality Law, specifically subsections (a) and (b). If everyone born in the US were actually automatically US citizens, subsection (b) would be redundant and would be neither included nor necessary:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:47 PM
 
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Yep another fantasy idea from our authoritarian king. Tomorrow it'll be "no soup for you" and the next day it'll be "bread line for you"...and the beat goes on.
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:56 PM
 
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The Supreme Court has already had rulings on the subject...
https://qz.com/1447349/an-1898-us-su...t-citizenship/
“The right of citizenship… is incident to birth in the country… The child of an alien, if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle.”

Supreme Court set clear precedent on birthright citizenship.
Birthright citizenship has a long history in the United States, upheld by Supreme Court rulings. 10/31/2018
https://thehill.com/opinion/immigrat...ht-citizenship
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