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Old 08-21-2019, 07:31 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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A movie star who uses a wheelchair also gets NJ Medicaid because he’s “disabled.” He recently wrote an open letter complaining about his State paid health benefits and said people should riot over health care:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj....outputType=amp

This man no doubt has medical needs but his disability is part of his stardom. Why should a movie star be getting Medicaid at all?
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Old 08-21-2019, 07:41 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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A movie star who uses a wheelchair also gets NJ Medicaid because he’s “disabled.” He recently wrote an open letter complaining about his State paid health benefits and said people should riot over health care:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj....outputType=amp

This man no doubt has medical needs but his disability is part of his stardom. Why should a movie star be getting Medicaid at all?


Uh, because he qualifies for it, the same reason that anyone "should get" Medicaid?


Also, why do you put quotes around the word disabled? You don't think having muscular dystrophy is a valid disablement?


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Old 08-21-2019, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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"Disabled"?

What in the world are you talking about?

Dude is all scrunched up in a wheelchair with muscular dystrophy.

You ever wipe the ass of a wheelchair-bound person? Bathe them? Put on their clothes?

I used to do it on the daily, brother. It's disabled...no quotation marks needed.

As for why he's getting it? Well, I suppose my man had his money robbed at gunpoint to fund it while he was at job as an actor so you better damn well know it's his right to take it out.

Team Red, get a principle and then get some compassion. Stop robbing people like a common thug and then turn around calling for "self-sufficiency".

You're not "rugged individualists". You're "selective socialists".

Now, deny his money back to him so you can spend it on your buddy Donald Marx's plans to confiscate bump stocks or blow the heads off 8-year-olds in Syria.

Pathetic.

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Old 08-21-2019, 08:03 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The point of getting state benefits due to a disability is because you can’t work. He’s working.
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:04 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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It doesn’t really say in the article, but I assume he received the cut of services because of an increase in his resources. I had a few years when my illness was really in overdrive when I would have qualified for SSI but my husband earned too much. I had a cousin with the same disease as mine that literally had to divorce her husband because, despite what he earned and having medical insurance, she needed more care than they could afford. By getting a divorce she could get the assistance she needed, since being put on SSI qualified her for Medicare, which covers way more than the insurance people pay for themselves - their minister is who talked them into getting the legal divorce and just keeping a spiritual marriage.

I have very mixed feeling about all this. I do feel if you have resources, like this guy and I do, you shouldn’t get everything paid for. However, I think for the seriously chronically ill charging them a percentage of earnings, but providing the same services, would be a better route.
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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The point of getting state benefits due to a disability is because you can’t work. He’s working.
It's his money!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your beloved State stole it from him...at gunpoint.
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:33 AM
 
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It doesn’t really say in the article, but I assume he received the cut of services because of an increase in his resources. I had a few years when my illness was really in overdrive when I would have qualified for SSI but my husband earned too much. I had a cousin with the same disease as mine that literally had to divorce her husband because, despite what he earned and having medical insurance, she needed more care than they could afford. By getting a divorce she could get the assistance she needed, since being put on SSI qualified her for Medicare, which covers way more than the insurance people pay for themselves - their minister is who talked them into getting the legal divorce and just keeping a spiritual marriage.

I have very mixed feeling about all this. I do feel if you have resources, like this guy and I do, you shouldn’t get everything paid for. However, I think for the seriously chronically ill charging them a percentage of earnings, but providing the same services, would be a better route.
In most states you cannot get Medicaid if you have over $2,000 in assets not counting your home and vehicle.
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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It doesn’t really say in the article, but I assume he received the cut of services because of an increase in his resources. I had a few years when my illness was really in overdrive when I would have qualified for SSI but my husband earned too much. I had a cousin with the same disease as mine that literally had to divorce her husband because, despite what he earned and having medical insurance, she needed more care than they could afford. By getting a divorce she could get the assistance she needed, since being put on SSI qualified her for Medicare, which covers way more than the insurance people pay for themselves - their minister is who talked them into getting the legal divorce and just keeping a spiritual marriage.

I have very mixed feeling about all this. I do feel if you have resources, like this guy and I do, you shouldn’t get everything paid for. However, I think for the seriously chronically ill charging them a percentage of earnings, but providing the same services, would be a better route.
Not stealing your money and then "earning" it back by answers on a piece of paper is the better option.

In fact, it's the only moral and logical option.
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:36 AM
 
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In most states you cannot get Medicaid if you have over $2,000 in assets not counting your home and vehicle.
States have programs that allow people with disabilities to work and still receive Medicaid and other services. There are more generous income and asset limits for these programs compared to conventional Medicaid. It is a good thing if people with disabilities are able to work but they still need support.
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:47 AM
 
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"Disabled"?

What in the world are you talking about?

Dude is all scrunched up in a wheelchair with muscular dystrophy.

You ever wipe the ass of a wheelchair-bound person? Bathe them? Put on their clothes?

I used to do it on the daily, brother. It's disabled...no quotation marks needed.

As for why he's getting it? Well, I suppose my man had his money robbed at gunpoint to fund it while he was at job as an actor so you better damn well know it's his right to take it out.

Team Red, get a principle and then get some compassion. Stop robbing people like a common thug and then turn around calling for "self-sufficiency".

You're not "rugged individualists". You're "selective socialists".

Now, deny his money back to him so you can spend it on your buddy Donald Marx's plans to confiscate bump stocks or blow the heads off 8-year-olds in Syria.

Pathetic.
Coming from a guy who likes racist/sexist and otherwise offensive humor, I say that putting quotes in the word disabled when a person is disabled is very dehumanizing.
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