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Old 08-23-2019, 11:55 AM
 
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Do what exactly?
Yeah, I thought invoking the 25th had to come from Pence? Or am I wrong?
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Old 08-23-2019, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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It's not not liking what he does. It's the effects his words and actions are having on this country, not to mention in the eyes of our allies. He's completely ineffectual. Like a bull in a damn china shop. Not a clue on diplomacy or how government works. Not to mention all the crazy crap that comes out of his mouth.
It's not that Trump is unique. There are plenty of hucksters like him out there, some of them become Mafia celebrities or similar. The amazing part is that he actually got 25% of the voting public to cast a ballot for one of them. This is what you really have to worry about - are we even capable of governing ourselves?

What elected Trump in 2016 were the 50% that didn't bother to go to the polls. There is going to be a much larger turnout in 2020, probably a historical turnout. It will be interesting.
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Old 08-23-2019, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Yes, among others. We need stable, intelligent people in the government. People with critical thinking skills, not a person that speaks badly of anyone that does not agree with his constant dribble of nonsense.
If we are smart and some of us are trying we will just let him talk and not pay any attention to his babbling. We will realize the good things he has done for us.. As for the candidates running on your side: how can anyone say Biden is sharp or stable? The same of course with Sanders. The rest, might be stable but the are so far out to the left they stand almost no chance of being elected. BTW remove Trump from office or just try and beat him in 2020. For those who want him removed with barely a year to go: I have to think you are really running scared or you would just wait it out.
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Old 08-23-2019, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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It is absurd in the year 2019. Land purchases such as those you referenced are all things of the past. Land masses are no longer bought and sold.
My it was perfectly right and acceptable if others did it, but not now: I certainly am glad I don't have your way of thinking!!!!! Oh and just one more addition to your first post or should I say correction: Trump did not say he was the second coming check you facts before posting: He did say Jews love him like he was: that is quite different.
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Old 08-23-2019, 12:17 PM
 
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If we are smart and some of us are trying we will just let him talk and not pay any attention to his babbling. We will realize the good things he has done for us.. As for the candidates running on your side: how can anyone say Biden is sharp or stable? The same of course with Sanders. The rest, might be stable but the are so far out to the left they stand almost no chance of being elected. BTW remove Trump from office or just try and beat him in 2020. For those who want him removed with barely a year to go: I have to think you are really running scared or you would just wait it out.
My worry with Trump staying in office, which I believe he will actually, is every damn day he does something else to harm the environment. We can't afford to let him keep cutting regulations, allowing drilling on public lands, develop public lands, etc. That's one of my biggest gripes with him, although certainly not the only one. It seems he has a propensity to alienate our allies and shoot himself and us in the foot with his policies and non-understanding of how being a president works. I don't see all the good things he has done for us. Quite the opposite.
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Old 08-23-2019, 12:19 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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My worry with Trump staying in office, which I believe he will actually, is every damn day he does something else to harm the environment. We can't afford to let him keep cutting regulations, allowing drilling on public lands, develop public lands, etc. That's one of my biggest gripes with him, although certainly not the only one. It seems he has a propensity to alienate our allies and shoot himself and us in the foot with his policies and non-understanding of how being a president works. I don't see all the good things he has done for us. Quite the opposite.
My top issues for the 2020 election are as follows.

1. The economy
2. The environment
3. Civil rights

Trump has taken a wrecking ball to all three of them and we likely have a very long road ahead to get back to where we were just a few years ago.
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Old 08-23-2019, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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My worry with Trump staying in office, which I believe he will actually, is every damn day he does something else to harm the environment. We can't afford to let him keep cutting regulations, allowing drilling on public lands, develop public lands, etc. That's one of my biggest gripes with him, although certainly not the only one. It seems he has a propensity to alienate our allies and shoot himself and us in the foot with his policies and non-understanding of how being a president works. I don't see all the good things he has done for us. Quite the opposite.
That is your view: others see it different: how about unemployment rates for starters? Even with the bad day the market is having today: how about the stock market compared to the day he was sworn in as our President. I am not a Trump lover when it comes to personality> In fact I am anything but and I understand people not personally not liking him, but I do not understand how anyone can not see what he has accomplished.
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Old 08-23-2019, 12:33 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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That is your view: others see it different: how about unemployment rates for starters? Even with the bad day the market is having today: how about the stock market compared to the day he was sworn in as our President. I am not a Trump lover when it comes to personality> In fact I am anything but and I understand people not personally not liking him, but I do not understand how anyone can not see what he has accomplished.
What has Trump done? The economy has been stagnant since early 2018 and now it looks like the bottom is about to drop completely out of it. All of this is due to Trump's tariffs and the tax cuts for the wealthy. We all are going to have to deal with the fallout of this and it's going to make 2008 look like a cakewalk. Never mind what he has done to our environment or the full-on assault against the civil rights of anybody not white, heterosexual, or the right kind of Christian.
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Old 08-23-2019, 12:38 PM
 
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What has Trump done? The economy has been stagnant since early 2018 and now it looks like the bottom is about to drop completely out of it. All of this is due to Trump's tariffs and the tax cuts for the wealthy. We all are going to have to deal with the fallout of this and it's going to make 2008 look like a cakewalk. Never mind what he has done to our environment or the full-on assault against the civil rights of anybody not white, heterosexual, or the right kind of Christian.
This speaks for itself. They don't hold the same opinion as you.

Wow, President Trump Crowd for New Hampshire Rally Easily Breaks Record…

Remember, you just said that crowd size DOES matter.
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Old 08-23-2019, 03:23 PM
 
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That is your view: others see it different: how about unemployment rates for starters? Even with the bad day the market is having today: how about the stock market compared to the day he was sworn in as our President. I am not a Trump lover when it comes to personality> In fact I am anything but and I understand people not personally not liking him, but I do not understand how anyone can not see what he has accomplished.
What good are jobs when you can't get fresh water, food or air? You can't eat money. IMO, he has accomplished nothing but havoc. And he continues to do it with the blessing of his supporters. That is what is so astounding.
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