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Old 08-22-2019, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Out West
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I don't agree with this.

First of all, I will state that I smoked my first cigarette at age 17, so "restrictions" didn't stop anything. I smoked about 5 cigarettes until I joined the military. There, because we weren't allowed to smoke in basic, I would bum them off of a PFC in basic who was allowed to buy them because the PX didn't realize she was in basic, and sold them to her. Us privates couldn't get away with it. Still, I only smoked about 3 the entire time in basic and AIT.

Then I got to my permanent duty station in Germany, where I was allowed to drink and I could smoke if I wanted to. So I did. Because I was rebellious, and telling me something was horrible and disgusting and so very wrong it was close to evil, well, screw all of them, I'm going to do it.

That was my choice. No one forced me into it. I chose it. I had the right to choose it. And that's how it should be.

I have quit smoking, don't even drink (never really liked it anyway even if I did get drunk a few times in Germany because I had no idea what my limit was when I got to Germany since it was so forbidden in the states - think it would have been better to learn while young, at home, with supervision instead), and even though I wish no one would pick up a smoke or drink in the first place, it's their choice when they become adults.

I'm also against marijuana, and am not fooled by all of those who pretend it's "medical marijuana". No. All of the people who smoke pot around here are not using it for medicinal purposes, nor are all of them doing that in Colorado, so spare me the bs about "medical marijuana" and how great it is. It was an open for all pot heads to smoke it.

Yet, it's a choice. I despise the stench of pot, and I want there to be extremely tough penalties for the morons who smoke it and drive their car afterwards - or while they are driving, just as I want extremely tough penalties for every dbag who drinks and drives.

Nonetheless, when you're an adult, if you want to partake in something that is bad for you, the government should not get a say. As was pointed out earlier, if I can sign up to go get blown up in some crappy country, then you damn well better not get in the way of me having a cigarette.
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Just don't sell cigarettes on the sidewalk in NYC regardless of your age or the age of your customers.

That's a death sentence imposed by the State and carried out on the very sidewalk you are doing business.

On the bright side I guess that's some government efficiency for us tax payers. Makes the toiling to earn it a bit easier.

Sorry, I'm off track again. Where were we?

Oh yeah, another violation of freedom of association, freedom of movement, and property rights by the GOP. Put in the pile on top of the billions of other violations.
Do you think you'd do any better selling untaxed pot on the streets of Seattle or Denver?
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:01 AM
 
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What exactly is this supposed to accomplish?
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:03 AM
 
Location: NC
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He must care so much. Wake me up when he introduces a bill to raise the enlistment age to 21
So hurry up and enlist teens before Mitch and his minions have another bout of alturism and take away your right to go off and die or have your genitals shot off for one of their causes.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/05/...ing-age-to-21/
as you were freedom lovin GOP'ers
I'm no fan or McConnell (understatement of the year), but I think this is probably a good move. Does not have anything to do with Enlistment age, they are unrelated.

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But smoking pot is no problem to a Democrat.
AFAIK, Pot smoking age already is 21. If it isn't, I support that too. Pot should be legal to grown-ass adults.
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:03 AM
 
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election security can wait, but teens vaping is just bad...
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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This is just as freekin' stupid as raising the drinking age to 21. Either you're an adult, with all the rights and responsibilities of adulthood-or you're a child. If you raise the drinking and smoking age, I trust the marriage and voting age will match.
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:14 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
He must care so much. Wake me up when he introduces a bill to raise the enlistment age to 21
So hurry up and enlist teens before Mitch and his minions have another bout of alturism and take away your right to go off and die or have your genitals shot off for one of their causes.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/05/...ing-age-to-21/
as you were freedom lovin GOP'ers
WoW! ^^^ This should CERTAINLY be a priority right now.

If one is old enough to go to war; they are old enough to drink and smoke.
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:19 AM
 
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Bipartisan Smoking bill after years of blocking everything by McConnell.

Better read that bill carefully, I am suspicious of bipartisan bills to address issues that are not even in the TOP 5 of priorities right now. Several states already have these rules in place. These bills are the ones that get loaded with goodies for the senators.
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:20 AM
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Location: SM
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Do you think you'd do any better selling untaxed pot on the streets of Seattle or Denver?
No.

Cops are pigs the world over.
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:22 AM
 
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I am sure this will work great. Certainly none of us ever drank a beer or smoked as teens, and as bad as it got pre-marital sex never, ever occurred.
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