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Old Today, 11:15 AM
 
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I have some words. He was last seen talking to the girl. He had a history of violence against women. Her leggings were sound on his property. Her school papers were found at his mother’s house. Her hair was found in his truck. His cell phone hit off a tower near where he dumped her body, 70 miles away. He staged a break in to hide evidence. He tried to get another person on death row ti confess and told him details of the killing not released to the public. He’s guilty.
All planted by the Deep State FBI
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Old Today, 11:20 AM
 
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Default So he was convicted by non-experts?

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"Forensic experts claim there is no way Larry Swearingen raped and killed Melissa Trotter. The state is still putting him to death."

No words.

https://reason.com/2019/08/21/tonigh...-didnt-commit/



I'm an expert; you are an expert; we are all experts. I never tried a case in which the verdict was based, not on the testimony, but on an EXPERT.
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Old Today, 11:30 AM
 
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It is hard to fathom that civics 101 is so clearly not understood. Due process is a sticky thing. A law, rule or whatever that is intended to protect the innocent from false imprisonment or worse can sometimes cause the exact opposite thing. The judicial system is flawed by its nature. When you read a news report of this kind, you hear the defense attorney say something like "They are going to execute someone that the legitimate forensic science has proven innocent". And "It is a sad day for justice in Texas. If his execution proceeds, Larry Swearingen will join several other individuals who were put to death by the state despite credible evidence of innocence."

Well, we really don't get to know what legitimate forensic science has been used in this case. We don't know also whether that forensic evidence meets any useful criteria at all. We do know that it is a sensible thing for the defense to say. It is a sad day for justice when an innocent person is put to death. One of the many reasons I am very opposed to the death penalty at all. But evidence has to be more than credible post conviction. And that is how it should be. Will we ever know for sure? Maybe not.
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Old Today, 11:30 AM
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They are not asking to overturn the conviction, they are asking to test the rape kit for DNA. If that comes back exculpatory then they would ask for for the conviction to be set aside.
So in essence they are going on a fishing expedition with the goal of overturning the conviction. Again, the reason why the state is against such is because the case has already been decided in a court of law by a jury of the defendant's peers. If a defense comes up with evidence that actually casts doubt on a defendant's guilty, then let's hear it. But fishing expeditions like this shouldn't be entertained, IMO.
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Old Today, 11:34 AM
 
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Don't worry dRATs, Swearingen will still be voting a straight Democrat Party ticket.
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Old Today, 12:51 PM
 
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All his lawyer wants is to do the DNA test that was never done. Why would Texas object to that if he is "guilty as sin"?

This is the problem with capital murder cases - it is a big career boost for a DA to get a high profile murder conviction. These ends up being a conflict of interest between ensuring justice is served and getting a major career boost. It is no wonder the DA doesn't want someone to have his conviction overturned. It would be a career killer for him. So he let's the guy be executed even though the evidence is pretty flimsy.
Yup. Not saying that's what's happening here, but that IS how it works.
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Old Today, 12:55 PM
 
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There are hundreds of thousands of rape kits that have not been tested.

There are millions of more victims who never even get a rape kit.
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Old Today, 12:56 PM
 
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Don't worry dRATs, Swearingen will still be voting a straight Democrat Party ticket.
No he won’t. He was executed last night.
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Old Today, 01:00 PM
 
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Sad thing is that Texas, particularly the Dallas County, and Illinois, especially the Cook County, have a exoneration rate among those Innocence Project-type organizations.
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Old Today, 01:01 PM
 
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This case is concerning, because of how unclear some of the evidence is. It's very hard to locate an unbiased source of info, and even though I've only spent an hour looking through articles, none seem to agree.

This article, for example, seems to have a LOT of details but appears to call "pantyhose" "panties", which is a pretty major error.

For those who don't live in Texas, and haven't suffered the rage and embarrassment of a LOT of men being released after conclusively being proven innocent of their crimes, with the Texas court system dragging their feet until forced to reexamine evidence, I can understand dismissing these concerns.

Sure looks to me like there was reasonable doubt.
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