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View Poll Results: do you support Biden's 'smart gun' proposal?
yes, let's move ahead with this James Bond-style tech that is already available 7 13.46%
let's hold off with any mandate, but maybe sometime in the future. 1 1.92%
no. 41 78.85%
other (please explain below). 3 5.77%
Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-22-2019, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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It's simple. It checks your fingerprint and DNA as you hold the trigger. If there is not a match, the gun is electronically prevented from firing. Only the original owner of the gun can fire it. Presumably if the gun were legally sold, it could be reprogrammed for the new owner.
Wow - so now the gun needs a battery and electronics to work - count me out.
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:38 PM
 
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It's simple. It checks your fingerprint and DNA as you hold the trigger. If there is not a match, the gun is electronically prevented from firing. Only the original owner of the gun can fire it. Presumably if the gun were legally sold, it could be reprogrammed for the new owner.
So how does it prevent the person from then going to a classified site and simply buying a gun that is up for sale by private owners? As long as they both agree on a price, its cash and carry!
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:44 PM
 
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It's simple. It checks your fingerprint and DNA as you hold the trigger. If there is not a match, the gun is electronically prevented from firing. Only the original owner of the gun can fire it. Presumably if the gun were legally sold, it could be reprogrammed for the new owner.

Honestly, is this is an explanation of how the technology works?
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Old 08-22-2019, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas & San Diego
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Reading the article it is clear that the technology doesn't really exist - this is not a real proposal.
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Old 08-22-2019, 11:07 PM
 
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I'm not a big fan of Joe Biden, as I have often posted in the elections section. But I have to admit that of all the contenders, he has the best approach when it comes to gun violence prevention. He's always been excellent on guns. The 1994 assault weapon ban was actually his brainchild. But now, in contrast to the others, he's moving ahead with a fresh approach: mandate that all guns be "smart" guns.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...out-dna-match/

The smart gun is a gun that can be fired only by its owner. The gun WILL NOT shoot unless a fingerprint and DNA match is confirmed. Biden notes that we already have the technology.



This would virtually eliminate black-on-black gang violence, which conservatives so often bemoan. Most gang weapons are either stolen, or obtained via 'straw' purchase. The gang members would no longer be able to shoot such guns under Biden's plan. A key would be to require that police agencies, who have often been resistant in the past, to adopt the smart guns. Many cops are killed with their own guns; this would put an end to that. What do you think?
Why is it you keep bringing up gun topics, when you have demonstrated again and again you have absolutely zero idea what you are talking about?

The 1994 assault weapon ban was stupid, it did not ban anything.

Biometrics of any kind is not reliable and there is a delay, no matter what it is applied to, and this smart gun would be no different. The last item that there needs to be a malfunction and a delay is a firearm. There are additional barriers like what if another person needs to use it, weather, wearing gloves, etc.
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Old 08-22-2019, 11:24 PM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Lets start testing that with the FBI, ATF and Secret Service before unleashing it on American civilians.
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Old 08-22-2019, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Lmao STUPID idea! The only thing Joe is an expert on is sniffing hair and knowing what shampoo they used.



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The 1994 assault weapon ban was stupid, it did not ban anything.
It sure did! It banned the new sell of AR15’s from having a bayonet lug. You know, when mass shooters run out of bullets they can’t put a knife at the end of the barrel and start stabbing folks.

That was a stupid idea, too.
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Old 08-22-2019, 11:39 PM
 
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I would add that Joe Biden is not some novice here. He's an expert when it comes to guns. He's a longtime shotgun aficionado who owns a 'Beretta' and trained his wife how to shoot for home protection.
lol.
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Old 08-22-2019, 11:53 PM
 
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See the link in post #1. The technology is there. It's from a right wing source, no less.

It reads your DNA the second you put your finger on the trigger. If there's no match, the weapon will not fire.
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Wow - so now the gun needs a battery and electronics to work - count me out.

i agree leave the electronics in your car. what happens t your gun when the electronics fail? its not like you can just clear a jam and resume firing.
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Old 08-23-2019, 06:12 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte, FL - Pasadena, People's Republic of Maryland
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Biden's smart-gun proposal is a waste. I can see it's usefulness for someone who is afraid of having their gun taken from them and then used against them, such as a criminal disarming a police officer. But outside of that, your street criminals, who do most of the shooting, will rig up a gun to shoot one way or another.
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