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Old Today, 07:23 AM
 
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My answer is to stop prioritizing them over American citizens, and make them ineligible for housing subsidies. Maybe they'd stop breaking our immigration laws if Dems stopped enticing them to do so with taxpayer benefits.
What do you want done about employers who prioritize illegals over American citizens by giving them a job?

IIRC, few employers are prosecuted.

Most states have safeguards that prevent illegals from getting benefits. But they can't do ICE's job.

Neither ICE nor CBP does jack chit about employers. Have the chicken processors gone to jail? What did Trump do to his supervising employees who hired illegals? Did they keep their jobs. What about the golf course guys who told the illegals where to obtain their phony IDs?

You are hard on bleeding heart liberals every day. Where the wrath for hard hearted law breaking Republican employers?
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Old Today, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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My answer is to stop prioritizing them over American citizens, and make them ineligible for housing subsidies. Maybe they'd stop breaking our immigration laws if Dems stopped enticing them to do so with taxpayer benefits.
I donít see where NYC is prioritizing illegals over US citizens.

All who seek to be eligible for the lottery must submit proof of employment via tax returns, pay stubs or letters of employment. That alone would eliminate illegal people, no?

They also must submit documentation that they have previously paid rent on time.

Wonder the ď what ifĒ there were no subsidies in NYC.

Makes no sense to me a senior on a fixed low income should seek to live in one of the most expensive cities in the world.
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Old Today, 07:35 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Wait a sec. You are saying the credit checks adversely affect blacks and Latinos? The only explanation for that would be ...their credit reports aren't as good.
Your source states,

“For too long, families without access to credit have faced barriers to the affordable housing they need. By allowing New Yorkers to submit rental history instead of credit checks, we are creating a fairer system for all New Yorkers.”

https://nypost.com/2019/08/21/illega...ing-lotteries/

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Furthermore, if the libs in NY set up a new system that makes it easier for illegals to get subsidized housing over Americans, then it is a BAD system that should not go forward. The attitude seems to be, based what you're saying, is "oh, well, as long as we make it easier for blacks and Latinos with bad credit to get in, it's no big deal if illegals get in as a result - and we therefore are encouraging more illegal immigration."

Unacceptable.
What is the republican plan to give low income black and Latino Americans better access to affordable housing?

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Old Today, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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So you think illegals can't provide that? They steal SS numbers. They'd have no problem providing any of that.

In the meantime, Deblasio is making it clear that illegals are welcome - even if it means deserving Americans get pushed out of an apartment in favor of them.
The illegals that were knowingly employed by Trump Org ( not that Trump knew) at various properties had obvious fake IDs. Trump Org overlooked it and intentionally withheld their employment from the FBI for vetting purposes.

Presumably, Payroll Taxes were deducted from their gross income. Who gets credit for this income/ working quarters?

Why does anyone ď deserveĒ subsidized housing?

Again, if I were a senior on a fixed low income, the last place I would seek to live is in one of the most expensive cities in the US.
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Old Today, 07:41 AM
 
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Again, if I were a senior on a fixed low income, the last place I would seek to live is in one of the most expensive cities in the US.
But that's where many of the illegals are - in cities like NYC, LA, San Francisco. You don't find nearly as many in cheaper, fly-over America. They come to these cities because there are already existing communities of their people, and there are favorable laws in place preventing them from being deported as well as many social services they can use.
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Old Today, 07:41 AM
 
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From your own source:

ďtenants will still be required to provide proof of employment through tax returns, pay stubs or letters of employment ó effectively keeping households without an authorized immigrant or citizen from getting a lease.Ē
even by that criteria, only a single member of the household is required to be legal. then a dozen and a half illegals can pile in behind.
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Old Today, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Iím a middle-class American citizen who has been paying taxes for the past 25yrs. I almost wish I were an immigrant who were here illegally. Iíd get free/affordable housing, free food, free healthcare, free education, etc...

The left incentivizes illegals to continue to enter our country. Itís a free ride once they make it across the border.
Would you? Where? How so?

No wall is high enough. No patrol deep enough. So long as employers choose to recruit and employ undocumented people, they will come.

When Trump Org knowingly employed illegal workers ( not suggesting Trump knew) for years and purposely chose to not use eVerify, says something. Did Trump Org bear any consequences?

Itís as bipartisan as it gets.
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Old Today, 07:49 AM
 
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Would you? Where? How so?

No wall is high enough. No patrol deep enough. So long as employers choose to recruit and employ undocumented people, they will come.

When Trump Org knowingly employed illegal workers ( not suggesting Trump knew) for years and purposely chose to not use eVerify, says something. Did Trump Org bear any consequences?

Itís as bipartisan as it gets.
That's not true, tough laws will stop them from coming. Our laws are a joke. Do you think Switzerland has a lot of illegal immigrants? What about Qatar? What about UAE? What about Singapore?
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Old Today, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Wait a sec. You are saying the credit checks adversely affect blacks and Latinos? The only explanation for that would be ...their credit reports aren't as good.

Why shouldn't a landlord be able to find out if a potential renter is responsible with money? I owned a business, and before I took on a new client, I did a check.

Furthermore, if the libs in NY set up a new system that makes it easier for illegals to get subsidized housing over Americans, then it is a BAD system that should not go forward. The attitude seems to be, based what you're saying, is "oh, well, as long as we make it easier for blacks and Latinos with bad credit to get in, it's no big deal if illegals get in as a result - and we therefore are encouraging more illegal immigration."

Unacceptable.
Credit scores do not take a history of timely satisfaction of monthly rent into consideration.
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Old Today, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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What do you want done about employers who prioritize illegals over American citizens by giving them a job?

IIRC, few employers are prosecuted.

Most states have safeguards that prevent illegals from getting benefits. But they can't do ICE's job.

Neither ICE nor CBP does jack chit about employers. Have the chicken processors gone to jail? What did Trump do to his supervising employees who hired illegals? Did they keep their jobs. What about the golf course guys who told the illegals where to obtain their phony IDs?

You are hard on bleeding heart liberals every day. Where the wrath for hard hearted law breaking Republican employers?
Employment of undocumented people is as bipartisan as it gets.

Only a handful of states require all employers to verify all new hires. Of these, all created loop holes. Itís not retroactive and excludes independent contractors.
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