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Old 08-23-2019, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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Obama didn't order Obamacare. It was passed legislatively. Trump's signed executive orders himself. However, he has no power to "order" companies not to do business with China.

He did NOT order companies to stop doing business with China (and other countries). He DID tweet:
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"....your companies HOME and making your products in the USA. I will be responding to China’s Tariffs this afternoon. This is a GREAT opportunity for the United States. Also, I am ordering all carriers, including Fed Ex, Amazon, UPS and the Post Office, to SEARCH FOR & REFUSE,....

....all deliveries of Fentanyl from China (or anywhere else!). Fentanyl kills 100,000 Americans a year. President Xi said this would stop - it didn’t. Our Economy, because of our gains in the last 2 1/2 years, is MUCH larger than that of China. We will keep it that way!"
Stop LYING about what he tweeted and stop LYING, attributing your opinion of what he tweeted rather than stating what he actually tweeted.

 
Old 08-23-2019, 01:36 PM
 
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He did NOT order companies to stop doing business with China (and other countries). He DID tweet:

Stop LYING about what he tweeted and stop LYING, attributing your opinion of what he tweeted rather than stating what he actually tweeted.
They lie as easily as they breathe.
 
Old 08-23-2019, 01:36 PM
 
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Originally Posted by KS_Referee View Post
He did NOT order companies to stop doing business with China (and other countries). He DID tweet:

Stop LYING about what he tweeted and stop LYING, attributing your opinion of what he tweeted rather than stating what he actually tweeted.
This is what he said:
"Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing your companies HOME and making your products in the USA."

Sorry, I can't interpret that any other way.
 
Old 08-23-2019, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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You are 100% correct. It appears that by President Trump living rent free inside the minds of TDS sufferers, they now posses the ability to know what President Trump is thinking and therefore they can communicate what they think he is thinking, then attribute the thoughts to President Trump, insinuating that is either what he said or what he wants.


The DSM seriously should include TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) as a classified mental disorder.
Do you think the President of the United States has the authority to tell private enterprise how to run their businesses?

How much communism is too much communism?
 
Old 08-23-2019, 01:43 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Why did you leave off the part of this where he was telling them to stop bringing fentanyl into the USA. That stuff is killing 1000s of young people every year.






Yup. We know why. The left is so dishonest.
Drug trafficking is a lucrative business run by criminals. It is not Chinese companies or the Chinese government exporting that stuff. The Chinese probably have the same problems governments around the world are having when fighting drug trafficking. Those are mafia-like organizations, not easy to stop.

His tweet is odd. Mentioning China's new tariffs, but he doesn't mention that those tariffs are only a response to the American ones from September on. China is not a country that smiles at you when you punch them in the face.

The Chinese success these days is mostly due to their own massive r&d and their hard work. Many Chinese work 60 hours a week.
 
Old 08-23-2019, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I DON'T support President Trump. I never have and I never will. I didn't vote for him and I wouldn't vote for him in the future.



What I DO support is Donald Trump's uncanny ability to not only control the narrative, but to control almost any and everyone around him by finding and successfully activating their "trigger" via his incredible ability to manipulate just about anyone, including those on both the left and the right, causing them to focus on what they are triggered by while he manipulates them into doing what he wants, and at the same time totally ignoring their BS, especially their triggered screams of his supposed indecency, intolerance, racism, misogyny, fascism, etc.



The concept is brilliant, and anyone who can successfully pull this off can achieve nearly anything they want. That doesn't mean I agree with all of his policies. I certainly don't agree with any policy that infringes upon or taxes (tariffs) free trade. I merely applaud the man for his brilliance at successfully distracting people with his masterful manipulation techniques.


I can't imagine how pathetic I would feel if, while brushing my teeth, eating breakfast, driving to work, working, going on breaks and lunch, heading home, etc., my mind was filled with screams of "Orange Man BAD!"


LOL!
As an entrepreneur I'd be far more worried about his socialist tendencies than his controlling the narrative.
 
Old 08-23-2019, 01:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by trobesmom View Post
This is what he said:
"Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing your companies HOME and making your products in the USA."

Sorry, I can't interpret that any other way.

WHERE was his order in that statement? You are intentionally LYING. His order was:
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"Also, I am ordering all carriers, including Fed Ex, Amazon, UPS and the Post Office, to SEARCH FOR & REFUSE,....
....all deliveries of Fentanyl from China (or anywhere else!)."

President Trump has the executive authority to sic the DOJ, FBI, DEA, BATF, IRS, etc., and a huge group of other alphabet soup agencies upon import carriers to more strongly enforce existing law. The Executive branch of the government has the authority and duty to enforce the law.


Again, you cannot attribute your interpretation to what he tweeted, while willfully ignoring what he actually tweeted. It's called LYING.
 
Old 08-23-2019, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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You still haven't explained why you think it's wrong for Trump to tell companies to stop profiteering over Fentanyl. It's killing 10s of 1000s each year.
You still haven't explained why you think it's the President's place to interfere in the free market.
 
Old 08-23-2019, 01:50 PM
 
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You still haven't explained why you think it's the President's place to interfere in the free market.
We don't have a free market.
 
Old 08-23-2019, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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President Trump has the executive authority to sic the DOJ, FBI, DEA, BATF, IRS, etc., and a huge group of other alphabet soup agencies upon import carriers to more strongly enforce existing law. The Executive branch of the government has the authority and duty to enforce the law.
Presidents don't have the right to interfere with or regulate free market capitalism.
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