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Old 08-23-2019, 08:34 PM
 
Location: the Sticks
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Shouldn’t judges be non-partisan?
That is an impossibility, everyone has a bias. That doesn't mean that they act upon it. As a Team leader I had more than a few bias, like everyone else.

We worker 12.5 hour swing shift on concrete. If it had been up to me we would not hire old or obese people. They almost never last beyond a year. I have been fooled more than once and some have turned out to amazing employees. The vast majority are typically barely acceptable, have reliability issues and a burden to their teams. As a leader I wasn't allowed to let my personal experiences or bias, dictate how I handled new people. I went by the book with ever member of every team I ever led. My point is judges do the same thing. They put their personal beliefs to the side (hopefully) and do their jobs.
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:35 PM
 
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From one human to another--I'm happy for her. But she still needs to step down for the better of the country.


She knows exactly what she is doing. How is her stepping down better for our country
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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Except nobody is trying to roll back margay marriage and the POTUS openly supported it when he was elected, unlike Obama who you loved.
But that is exactly what the 1st 2 horrible judges he appointed would do if given the chance.
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:46 PM
 
Location: the Sticks
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But that is exactly what the 1st 2 horrible judges he appointed would do if given the chance.
You dont know that as fact....

As I said if I were king I wouldn't hire old or Obese people to work in the factory I worked in. They seldom work out. Some did, but not many.

When I was put on the tagging committee I likely could have used my bias to eliminate certain applicants. I didn't, I instead followed policy.. Our SCOTUS members do just that. Kavanaugh has already surprised the left more than once.
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:48 PM
 
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That is an impossibility, everyone has a bias. That doesn't mean that they act upon it. As a Team leader I had more than a few bias, like everyone else.

We worker 12.5 hour swing shift on concrete. If it had been up to me we would not hire old or obese people. They almost never last beyond a year. I have been fooled more than once and some have turned out to amazing employees. The vast majority are typically barely acceptable, have reliability issues and a burden to their teams. As a leader I wasn't allowed to let my personal experiences or bias, dictate how I handled new people. I went by the book with ever member of every team I ever led. My point is judges do the same thing. They put their personal beliefs to the side (hopefully) and do their jobs.
Yeah, except she acts on her bias ALL THE TIME!
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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If she retires soon (within this year) Trump will appoint an outstanding replacement.
I highly doubt that...he'll appoint another activist like Gorsuch or Kavanaugh...terrible judges that will take our country backwards with horrible decisions.
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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As someone who has been involved in PFLAG for years and has a gay son and several cousins, I disagree with you completely.

Trump has done nothing to hurt the Gay community.
Did you see that article above about him wanting the gov't to allow LGBT people to be fired just for being gay? Discrimination like that, and his ban on Trans service members have definitely hurt the LGBT community...he's done nothing positive for us.
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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Well yes, I just mean balanced. But of course they're going to have their personal leanings.

I would not, in a million years, want an extremely right or left Supreme Court.
We already have an extremely right SCOTUS now so you definitely don't want another Trump appointee on this court.
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Old 08-23-2019, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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We already have an extremely right SCOTUS now so you definitely don't want another Trump appointee on this court.
All this OH ROLL BACK GAY MARRIAGE CRAP is very annoying, though. It's not happening. I don't care if we get 9 Scalias on there.

The Government can't just void how many hundreds of thousands of marriages.....can you imagine how tied up the courts would be with everyone suing? So if the marriage wasn't valid, who gets what that they bought together in the divorce? That's just one of a million reasons why they won't touch it. Well more than half of Americans support it, anyway.

Same sex marriage isn't going anywhere. It was settled 4 years ago. The Pat Robertsons of the world can get get the **** over it. Most republicans don't even care. Just cause they don't go to pride parades it doesn't make them bigots.

I'm in one, just btw. Not worried one bit.

Edit: My irritability wasn't directed at you, this is just an issue that really gets under my skin because it would never happen.
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Old 08-23-2019, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Dublin, OH
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You dont know that as fact....

As I said if I were king I wouldn't hire old or Obese people to work in the factory I worked in. They seldom work out. Some did, but not many.

When I was put on the tagging committee I likely could have used my bias to eliminate certain applicants. I didn't, I instead followed policy.. Our SCOTUS members do just that. Kavanaugh has already surprised the left more than once.
"Kavanaugh has already provided the decisive vote in eight 5-4 rulings with a traditional ideological split, including cases related to immigrant detention, the death penalty and sovereign immunity. In one of the most hotly anticipated cases of the term, he and the other conservatives decided that partisan gerrymandering of legislative districts isn’t reviewable by federal courts. And over the coming years, Kavanaugh will wield enormous power as the new, more conservative court takes up pivotal subjects like environmental regulations, guns and religious liberty."

I see nothing there that shows he has surprises those of us on the left. He's far right just like Gorsuch and Thomas and Alito.
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