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Old 08-26-2019, 12:13 AM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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The only activist judges on the bench are from the lefts own appointments.
Hardly. The right-wing, partisan Supreme Court handed George W. Bush the Presidency in Bush v. Gore. That was an extreme and heinous act of judicial activism.
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Old 08-26-2019, 06:31 AM
 
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Hardly. The right-wing, partisan Supreme Court handed George W. Bush the Presidency in Bush v. Gore. That was an extreme and heinous act of judicial activism.
The left does a better job of appointing justices that are rubber stamps for the left's agenda. George HW Bush whiffed on David Souter, and Gerald Ford whiffed on John Paul Stevens. Anthony Kennedy's was hardly a rubber stamp for the conservative agenda, despite being appointed by Ronald Reagan. Chief Justice John Roberts made a decision that conservatives believe to be as traitorous when he was the key vote not to strike down the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) as unconsitituional. That was a George W Bush nominee.

Bill Clinton's nominees (Stephen Breyer and RBG) have been steadfastly liberal. So have Barack Obama's nominees (Sotomayor and Kagan).
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Old 08-26-2019, 12:18 PM
 
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A very good article in preparation for what happens when Ruth Ginsburg retires from the Supreme Court:

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Get Ready For Apocalypse Ruth

Progressives’ ghoulish glee over the death of an old man turned into barely constrained panic when, later that day, it was revealed that their heroine Ruth Bader Ginsberg was just treated for pancreatic cancer yet again. Their disgraceful joy at David Koch’s passing was yet another reminder of the harsh truth that leftists want you dead or enslaved. Koch’s sin was that he disagreed with liberals (though, in important ways, also with conservatives). For that, these cretins danced around like idiots celebrating his succumbing. And they’ll celebrate when you die too. Always believe people who tell you they hate you and want you dead.

Oh, and never disarm.
...{More at the link, with the conclusion below}

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My money is on him appointing Amy Coney Barrett, who has the unique ability to be a Scalia-like justice and to own the libs by being a woman. And not just any woman but a female woman who has kids and goes to church and is down with originalism like a boss. It’s going to be hard to paint her as the ringleader of a teen rape gang, and while her beer-appreciation status is yet unknown, it is unlikely she will have to explain to the dummies on the Judiciary Committee her high school clique’s unique flatulence euphemisms.

But they will still try to destroy her. That’s their only move, one not unrelated to the giddy cheer that greeted David Koch’s death. All we conservatives did with whoever Merrick Garland was was tell him “No.” But if you are conservative and you oppose them, they will try to wipe you out, if not literally then at least figuratively. But that’s a desperation tactic and it does not work, not if you hold strong and refuse to back down. Clarence Thomas fought back and won. Brett Kavanaugh fought back and won. And Amy Coney Barrett will fight back and she will win.

And that means our Constitution will win.

Loins, commence girding.
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Old 08-26-2019, 12:41 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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A very good article in preparation for what happens when Ruth Ginsburg retires from the Supreme Court:

...{More at the link, with the conclusion below}
Actually if Amy Barrett ends up in the supreme court, the BIBLE will win, NOT the Constitution.

At that point, the U.S. government will be the de-facto strong arm of the Southern Baptist Church. That will certainly be the end of legal abortion and same-sex marriage in the USA. I think the end of legal abortion and the annulment of same-sex marriages nationwide will be just the beginning of a push for much more restrictive theocratic rule in this country.

Progressives and anybody who doesn't want the USA to become Jerry Falwell's fantasy world better hope that Justice Ginsburg outlasts the Trump administration.
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Old 08-26-2019, 12:46 PM
 
Location: DMV Area/NYC/Honolulu
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Actually if Amy Barrett ends up in the supreme court, the BIBLE will win, NOT the Constitution.

At that point, the U.S. government will be the de-facto strong arm of the Southern Baptist Church. That will certainly be the end of legal abortion and same-sex marriage in the USA. I think the end of legal abortion and the annulment of same-sex marriages nationwide will be just the beginning of a push for much more restrictive theocratic rule in this country.

Progressives and anybody who doesn't want the USA to become Jerry Falwell's fantasy world better hope that Justice Ginsburg outlasts the Trump administration.
Why don't you believe that someone who is deeply religious can't be impartial and apply the law faithfully? This seems to be similar to the disgraceful line of questioning questioning Judge Barrett's faith by Democrats in the Senate during her confirmation hearing to the Court of Appeals.
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Old 08-26-2019, 12:53 PM
 
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Why don't you believe that someone who is deeply religious can't be impartial and apply the law faithfully? This seems to be similar to the disgraceful line of questioning questioning Judge Barrett's faith by Democrats in the Senate during her confirmation hearing to the Court of Appeals.
If they pursue this line of attack against Judge Barrett, they will out themselves as the aggressive anti-Christian bigots that many of them clearly are - right there in the Senate Judiciary hearings, and probably on the floor of the US Senate as well.

And all of that during the 2020 election campaign season. That will not be helpful to them and it will not be a very good look for the Democrats in Congress, at all. And then their presidential candidates will weigh in. No, this is really likely to be quite nasty, probably very anti-religious and especially very anti-Christian.
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Old 08-26-2019, 12:54 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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Why don't you believe that someone who is deeply religious can't be impartial and apply the law faithfully? This seems to be similar to the disgraceful line of questioning questioning Judge Barrett's faith by Democrats in the Senate during her confirmation hearing to the Court of Appeals.
Fundamentalist Christians ONLY see the world through their black-and-white religious worldview and tend to be activist judges. That fact is exactly why Trump would nominate Barrett. It would complete his promise to his evangelical base, giving them the power to finally "reclaim this country for God" which really means establishing theocratic rule.

The entire Trump movement is a response to the 2015 SCOTUS decision to legalize same-sex marriage. Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court is a central reason why Trump supporters have continued to remain so loyal. They want a country where white Christian men are in all positions of authority and gays are in the closet, women are in the kitchen, brown people know their place, and every school day begins with the Pledge of Allegiance and prayer in Jesus' name. They want an America where there's absolutely zero tolerance for any open questioning or disagreement with "traditional values." Amy Barrett is the religious right's key to making that happen.

If she ends up on the court, separation of church and state is done in this country.
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Old 08-26-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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If they pursue this line of attack against Judge Barrett, they will out themselves as the aggressive anti-Christian bigots that many of them clearly are - right there in the Senate Judiciary hearings, and probably on the floor of the US Senate as well.
Remember that not all Christians are Southern Baptists or evangelicals. There are plenty of denominations/churches out there that would oppose laws that would impose conservative evangelical dogma on all Americans. The religious right is as big of a threat to these types of Christians as they are to atheists and non-Christian faiths.
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Old 08-26-2019, 01:13 PM
 
Location: DMV Area/NYC/Honolulu
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Fundamentalist Christians ONLY see the world through their black-and-white religious worldview and tend to be activist judges. That fact is exactly why Trump would nominate Barrett. It would complete his promise to his evangelical base, giving them the power to finally "reclaim this country for God" which really means establishing theocratic rule.

The entire Trump movement is a response to the 2015 SCOTUS decision to legalize same-sex marriage. Amy Barrett on the Supreme Court is a central reason why Trump supporters have continued to remain so loyal. They want a country where white Christian men are in all positions of authority and gays are in the closet, women are in the kitchen, brown people know their place, and every school day begins with the Pledge of Allegiance and prayer in Jesus' name. They want an America where there's absolutely zero tolerance for any open questioning or disagreement with "traditional values." Amy Barrett is the religious right's key to making that happen.

If she ends up on the court, separation of church and state is done in this country.
Awfully judgmental and not inaccurate of you. But Judge Barrett has a judicial record. Please show me how she has strayed from her secular, constitutional oath.
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Old 08-26-2019, 01:29 PM
 
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Her treatments are already done. She's cancer-free once again. What a trooper she is, and what an incredible story her life has been.

She needs to hang in there for another 6 months and then the GOP will have their hands tied. Since Mitch McConnell blocked Obama from electing Garland since it was an election year, as a man of integrity, I'm sure McConnell would also block Trump from nominating a replacement. /sarcasm.
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