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Old 08-28-2019, 10:51 AM
 
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She is 86 years old...and she is not going to live forever.


Let's all be honest: she's making a mockery of the Court.


The question I have is: why didn't she leave when Obama still had a chance to replace her with another communist like her?


I can't quite understand that one. The only conclusion I've come to is she is so narcissistic and arrogant that her legacy was more important than keeping the communist movement moving forward.
Here's an interesting article - that says RBG didn't step down because of what happened to Sandra Day O'Conner.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...residency.html

Who knows how true it is.

With that being said, in a perfect world, no one should make the decision on when to retire, except the person themselves.

BUT ... this isn't a perfect world. This is the Supreme Court. And we're talking about a justice who is frail, falls asleep in public and doesn't seem nearly as sharp as she used to be.

She's an icon for certain. But her legacy is being dimished because of her current public persona.
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Old 08-28-2019, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Boston
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the last image that burns through her brain will be Trump appointing another SC Justice.
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Old 08-28-2019, 11:00 AM
 
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Here's an interesting article - that says RBG didn't step down because of what happened to Sandra Day O'Conner.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...residency.html

Who knows how true it is.

With that being said, in a perfect world, no one should make the decision on when to retire, except the person themselves.

BUT ... this isn't a perfect world. This is the Supreme Court. And we're talking about a justice who is frail, falls asleep in public and doesn't seem nearly as sharp as she used to be.

She's an icon for certain. But her legacy is being dimished because of her current public persona.
As you allude to, that article involves a lot of conjecture (both in terms of how Sandra Day O'Connor left the Court and in terms of how that affected RBG's decision) and hearsay, so I don't give it much weight (an interesting read, nonetheless!)

I take what her for her own words, when she mentioned that she wasn't concerned about a Republican being able to replace her as Democrats do quite well in presidential elections.
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Old 08-28-2019, 11:53 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Perhaps we should have mandatory retirement age for SCOTUS Justices?
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Old 08-28-2019, 11:57 AM
 
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I'm surprised the Loony Left feminists haven't demanded RBG retire since she said nice things about Gorsuch and Kavanaugh. Heresy!
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Old 08-28-2019, 12:20 PM
 
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Perhaps we should have mandatory retirement age for SCOTUS Justices?
I like the system as it is now. Those states with mandatory retirement ages for judges are generally set between the ages of 70-75: https://ballotpedia.org/Mandatory_retirement

My problem with these ages are that people are living healthy lives for longer periods of times than in generations past. Also, its not like judicial work is the most onerous, particularly at the Supreme Court level where they hear between 60-80 merit cases each year and have a months' long summer recess and mid year recess. . . yes, they get petitioned to hear thousands of cases each year, but the job of sorting and making recommendations on which cases to hear generally fall to the law clerks. So, we're talking about people with low intensity jobs and solid health care.

Plus, many will voluntarily step down before they become too old or otherwise unable to do their jobs. I don't think that a few people (and I'm not convinced that RBG is in this category) don't should ruin it for the others, IMO.

To close, I also appreciate the relative unpredictability of SCOTUS vacancies. If there was a mandatory retirement age, presidential elections and politics would become even nastier than they are currently.

Just my two cents.
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:37 PM
 
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Notorious RBG is just enjoying her last 90 minutes of fame til she goes out feet first...........
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Old 08-28-2019, 03:13 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Kavalier View Post
She is 86 years old...and she is not going to live forever.


Let's all be honest: she's making a mockery of the Court.


The question I have is: why didn't she leave when Obama still had a chance to replace her with another communist like her?


I can't quite understand that one. The only conclusion I've come to is she is so narcissistic and arrogant that her legacy was more important than keeping the communist movement moving forward.
Because like EVERYONE, she thought Clinton was going to win.
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Old 08-28-2019, 05:44 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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I like the system as it is now. Those states with mandatory retirement ages for judges are generally set between the ages of 70-75: https://ballotpedia.org/Mandatory_retirement

My problem with these ages are that people are living healthy lives for longer periods of times than in generations past. Also, its not like judicial work is the most onerous, particularly at the Supreme Court level where they hear between 60-80 merit cases each year and have a months' long summer recess and mid year recess. . . yes, they get petitioned to hear thousands of cases each year, but the job of sorting and making recommendations on which cases to hear generally fall to the law clerks. So, we're talking about people with low intensity jobs and solid health care.

Plus, many will voluntarily step down before they become too old or otherwise unable to do their jobs. I don't think that a few people (and I'm not convinced that RBG is in this category) don't should ruin it for the others, IMO.

To close, I also appreciate the relative unpredictability of SCOTUS vacancies. If there was a mandatory retirement age, presidential elections and politics would become even nastier than they are currently.

Just my two cents.

I don't see how it's in the country's best interest to have 85+ year olds on the bench of the highest court in the land. Health - either mental, physical, or both - can tank quickly at those age ranges and the confirmation process is not quick in a lot of cases. Empty seats on the bench are not a benefit to the country, either.

There are certainly no easy answers, but I could see an argument for a mandatory retirement age. Kavanaugh is 54, an mandatory retirement of 80 would give him 26 years on the Court.
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