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Old Yesterday, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Old Yesterday, 08:20 AM
 
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Sorry, I hate most beans and I don't like vegetables enough to make them a large part of my diet.. I eat them because I know they're good for me, but they take up too much valuable real estate on the plate next to the pork chops and mashed potatoes and gravy.
 
Old Yesterday, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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Sorry, I hate most beans and I don't like vegetables enough to make them a large part of my diet.. I eat them because I know they're good for me, but they take up too much valuable real estate on the plate next to the pork chops and mashed potatoes and gravy.
I don't shy away from meat but I sometimes make own veggie burgers with chick peas, onions, and spices in a processor...they're actually pretty damned good.

btw veggies should be taking up the MOST real estate on your plate, meat should be last.
 
Old Yesterday, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Early America
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Besides moral issues to how animals are raised and slaughtered by meat companies...

That is actually a health issue. Why aren't more consumers demanding better than factory-farmed meat?
Consumers are not getting good essential nutrients from poorly raised animals on artificial diets and antibiotics. Stop buying that crap and making yourselves sick. If there is little to no demand for it, the supply dries up. Buy naturally and humanely raised meat and, yes, eat less of it. Nutrients in healthy meat are necessary for human health and, no, synthetic nutrients are not good enough.

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There are efficiency issues that tie into pollution and land use.

The world's population is growing. America's population is growing. We need more and more food.

Plants to eat are simply more efficient and cleaner for the environment than meat.
What do you do during the off-season when plants cannot be grown here? As it is now, most of our year-round produce comes from third world countries which would have to increase. How is shipping in plants from far away lands more efficient and cleaner for the environment? Not to mention, they are nutritionally degraded by the time they are distributed to supermarkets around the country, contributing further to health problems.

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Jump for soy!
Nonfermented soy is extremely bad for human health. Soy is also the most pesticide contaminated crop.

Americans demand fresh fruits and vegetables 365 days a year but cannot be grown here 365 days a year. Eat locally and regionally grown produce when in season and preserve the ones you can for the off-season. If Americans demanded better quality food, growers would step up to meet the demand, and pricing would be much more competitive.
 
Old Yesterday, 08:36 AM
 
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Soy isn’t an option for many since it’s one of the most prevalent food allergies. I’m not a red meat eater, but having a soy allergy means poultry, eggs, pork, fish and seafood are going to continue to be part of my regular diet. Yeah, yeah I know I could eat beans for protein instead but life’s too darn short to subsist on something you have to choke down.
Most of my in-laws (DH's family, not DH) were/are Seventh Day Adventists, and are strict vegetarians as a tenet of their religion. DH was raised an SDA and vegetarian as well. He stopped being both when he turned 18 and moved out on his own. The first meat he sampled then was mostly McDonalds Big Macs and pepperoni pizza. When he met me, I introduced him to roast beef, bacon, pork chops, baked ham, etc.

The vegetarian SDA's I knew ate a lot of beans and lentils (we don't really associate with that side of the family anymore). The gas of someone who eats a lot of beans can get pretty bad, probably as bad as the cow farts they say are destroying the planet. .
 
Old Yesterday, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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I've been vegetarian for 32 years. I think I have a good head start.

 
Old Yesterday, 08:45 AM
 
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Reading the comments from the meat eaters here causes me to realize that I have more in common with vegetarians than avoidance of meat.
 
Old Yesterday, 08:47 AM
 
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I don't shy away from meat but I sometimes make own veggie burgers with chick peas, onions, and spices in a processor...they're actually pretty damned good.

btw veggies should be taking up the MOST real estate on your plate, meat should be last.

Like I said, I don't like vegetables enough to fill my plate with them. And I'm a healthy, size-four, 59 year old woman.
 
Old Yesterday, 08:53 AM
 
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Soy isnít an option for many since itís one of the most prevalent food allergies. Iím not a red meat eater, but having a soy allergy means poultry, eggs, pork, fish and seafood are going to continue to be part of my regular diet. Yeah, yeah I know I could eat beans for protein instead but lifeís too darn short to subsist on something you have to choke down.
Your not preparing them right. I make giant bowl of mexican bean salad everytime I throw a party. It's always one of the first dishes to go and I'm asked for the recipe constantly. Also my kids love it.
 
Old Yesterday, 10:08 AM
 
Location: california
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I raise chickens and vegetable .
I do not appreciate GMOs, they are an abomination, no matter what good people thing they accomplish. Bio fuel is about all they are good for .
Many people cannot eat soy and other meat substitutes . and the amino acids in meat do things for our bodies that other proteins do not, I am told,
As for birth rates Some believe that most people are reasonable not having big families, however Muslim families are determined to be large to overwhelm the voting influence. This is SOP in Islam .
So how is this going to be fixed ?
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