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Old 08-23-2019, 09:26 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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A President cannot vacate a treaty, they can however vacate an executive agreement made by previous administrations. Both the Iran deal and the Paris agreement were highly controversial major policy decisions that did not have the required support for a treaty, they never should of been signed in the first place by either parties.
The United States, the United Kingdom, Russia, France, China, Germany, and the European Union created the Iran nuclear deal. What countries consider the Iranian nuclear deal to be highly controversial?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_n...deal_framework

194 countries signed the Paris Agreement. What countries consider the Paris agreement to be highly controversial?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...aris_Agreement

The only group who considers these treaties to be highly controversial is America's republicans.

The real controversy is Trump ending a treaty that stopped Iran from developing nuclear weapons, and because of Trump Iran is now on the path to acquire nuclear weapons. And the real controversy involving the Paris Agreement is that US republicans are the only political party on Earth that does not believe in man-made global warming.
Why Are Republicans the Only Climate-Science-Denying Party in the World?


Republicans hate the Iran deal simply because Obama was involved in creating it. And republicans say man-made global warming is a hoax because the large corporations that fund republicans would loose massive amounts of money if global warming laws were enacted.

https://www.mediamatters.org/rush-li...machine/191545
https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/globa...ch-industries/
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Old 08-23-2019, 10:02 PM
 
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The Paris agreement can burn in hell.
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Old 08-23-2019, 10:06 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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And you are wrong -- most of the world doesn't hate the USA anymore today than they did 40 years ago......
"A growing share of people around the world see U.S. power and influence as a “major threat” to their country, and these views are linked with attitudes toward President Donald Trump and the United States as a whole, according to Pew Research Center surveys conducted in 22 nations since 2013."

In 2013 70% of the world had confidence in the US president.
In 2017 23% of the world had confidence in the US president.

In 2013 66% of the world had a favorable view of America.
In 2017 49% of the world had a favorable view of America.

In 2013 25% of the world saw the US as a major threat.
In 2017 38% of the world saw the US as a major threat.
In 2018 its 45%.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...their-country/
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Old 08-23-2019, 11:03 PM
 
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That's not going to happen - but Trump is teaching the world a long term lesson - never rely on anything the USA says. Not treaties...not promises...nothing.

I think the world is getting the hint. But most Trumpies do not care. Yet.
And this is the most damaging thing, and Putin must be proud. Brexit and Trump have caused chaos in the west. Putin has been more successful than the communists ever were.
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Old 08-23-2019, 11:05 PM
 
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Not a huge fan of Trump but from my perspective he is telling the world the US will no longer be taken advantage of. Every treaty he has pulled out of the other party is some shape or form was already breaking or not holding up their end of the deal.
BS. Who was not holding up their end of the bargain in NAFTA?

HINT: Most of the dispute resolution cases were against the USA.
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Old 08-23-2019, 11:38 PM
 
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Of course we would lose out on some other benefits to being the world's reserve currency.
You think?
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Old 08-24-2019, 12:10 AM
 
Location: Online
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Bank of England Governor Mark Carney said the world’s reliance on the U.S. dollar as a reserve currency is too risky and proposed a new digital currency to replace it.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/23/bank...the-world.html

Now that's a new concept.

I don't think they have ever talked about the instability of the USA dollar before.

WOW.

This isn't something to happen in the short term....but it shows how other countries are changing views on the USA and its role in the world.
I tell ya ... we are winning! BIGLY!

We are fast becoming that ****-hole country.
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Old 08-24-2019, 12:13 AM
 
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As opposed to what Obama, Bush and Clinton taught? Bend us over and we'll even pay you for it? The one treaty I wish Trump would break is the cash to Israel and Egypt. That was a lesson Carter taught. The USA will pay you to act like friends with each other, even when it is none of our business.
Seriously? That is how you think it works? How old are you?
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Old 08-24-2019, 12:15 AM
 
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Believe it or not, a LOT of treaties have held up including major Nuclear ones from the Reagan era.

All down the tubes now. Next thing NK and Iran will be fully nuked..and your deal leader, without congress approval, is transferring nuke tech to the Saudis.

What could possibly go wrong.

I think you will realize someday...but it will be too late. When trust is broken this badly it can take many decades or more to recover.

Oh, well, it was good while it lasted.....
That bold part is that we have lost and will probably never see it in our lifetime again.
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:35 AM
 
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That bold part is that we have lost and will probably never see it in our lifetime again.
Yup, and have been in 11 countries in the past year, anyone I met said they would never trust the USA again.
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