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Old Yesterday, 12:15 PM
 
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Another right winger ignoring all those red state employers of illegals. Lol.

Maybe one day you'll ask yourself why Republicans never actually want to fix immigration...
Does it trigger you that you don't manage the means of production to hire these illegal immigrants? I think it does.
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Old Yesterday, 12:20 PM
 
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If one thinks that it is only Republicans that hire illegal aliens then they aren't dealing in reality. The only fix that the Democrats want is another massive amnesty. How is that a fix? At least Trump is trying deter more from coming here and enforcing our immigration internally. The Democrats don't want a secure border that includes good physical barriers and they love them sanctuary cities. They also want to give them healthcare and college tuition. It's the Democrats that love illegal aliens not the Republicans.
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Old Yesterday, 12:21 PM
 
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The right hates the truth about all the immigrants working on farms, construction etc.

Much easier to not solve the problem and use it to motivate your base.

Of course, the biggest anti illegal hypocrites are often found in red states.... Just look at the food plant in Mississippi where ICE went after the illegals and didn't did a damn thing to the employers
Clap clap clap. Bingo. Where are the charges against Trump's golf clubs that hired illegals with allegations of them helping with doctored paper work? This different set of rules and justice for the rich vs the working class needs to stop.
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Old Yesterday, 12:26 PM
 
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The first generation of poor immigrants.

Here in Arizona there are lots of 2nd generation kids who end up dropping out of school and getting on public assistance. Certainly lots that don't contribute at all. With our huge budget deficits we can't afford to carry a whole generation of people by spending billions on them yearly.

Bring in immigrants that have assets and an education instead of those working under the table cleaning houses and construction or at the worst selling illegal drugs.

Let non violent prisoners out one year early under the condition they take a job that is current done by people here illegally. Farm work, construction or fast food. Every time ICE catching one illegal give the prisoner the job.
The person you are replying to used the word plain ole "immigrants" to make his case when the subject is illegal aliens instead. They are never an asset to our society.
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Old Yesterday, 01:04 PM
 
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Does it trigger you that you don't manage the means of production to hire these illegal immigrants? I think it does.
Not at all. I think it's hilarious to watch right wingers get all up in arms about illegal immigration while they are basically being teased by the GOP to just get them to the polls while nothing actually gets fixed.

Notice the recent Mississippi ICE raid? Not a single employer went to jail
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Old Yesterday, 01:07 PM
 
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Clap clap clap. Bingo. Where are the charges against Trump's golf clubs that hired illegals with allegations of them helping with doctored paper work? This different set of rules and justice for the rich vs the working class needs to stop.
Trump could hire illegals all day, and he actually has, and the right wouldn't care.
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Old Yesterday, 01:20 PM
 
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Meghan McCain said almost same thing, I think it was who is going to clean our toilets.
It wasn't Meghan McCain who said that, it was Kelly Osbourne, Ozzy and Sharon Osbourne's daughter (a Democrat ?):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m5S91y3fL8
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Old Yesterday, 01:30 PM
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First we supposedly needed black slaves to "mow our lawns" and to displace and not pay for free market American workers. Next it was supposedly needed mass immigration from Eastern and Southern Europe to keep market wages down and displace American workers. Illegal aliens are just the current way to displace and not pay for American workers and also to displace American voters.
In the book, 1491 there is an interesting chapter on the history of slavery on planet earth.

Be they black, brown, yellow or white the ONE PERCENTERS have ALWAYS complained about the cost of labor.

They thought they had it solved when they made slavery a normal human condition. Unfortunately, for them it didn't work out so well for the "peculiar" institution.

The ONE PERCENTERS have always complained about the price of labor. They even invented a political system COMMUNISIM where they enslaved entire countries under the banner of "EQUALITY". It is no accident that as "formal slavery" was ending in the world, the Communist movement was gathering steam.

In 1981, the US reached ZERO population growth. Under those conditions the price of labor would steadily rise since it was becoming more scarce.

It is no accident that the one percenters opened the American borders in the late 1980's to all comers. They have keep those labor costs down, particularly since they cannot openly own people anymore.
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Old Yesterday, 01:41 PM
 
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In the book, 1491 there is an interesting chapter on the history of slavery on planet earth.

Be they black, brown, yellow or white the ONE PERCENTERS have ALWAYS complained about the cost of labor.

They thought they had it solved when they made slavery a normal human condition. Unfortunately, for them it didn't work out so well for the "peculiar" institution.

The ONE PERCENTERS have always complained about the price of labor. They even invented a political system COMMUNISIM where they enslaved entire countries under the banner of "EQUALITY". It is no accident that as "formal slavery" was ending in the world, the Communist movement was gathering steam.

In 1981, the US reached ZERO population growth. Under those conditions the price of labor would steadily rise since it was becoming more scarce.

It is no accident that the one percenters opened the American borders in the late 1980's to all comers. They have keep those labor costs down, particularly since they cannot openly own people anymore.
I think that is exactly right. Well stated. That is why we had slavery, and now open borders. Any other explanations is just the one percenters trying to confuse the issue.
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Old Yesterday, 01:47 PM
 
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Only person who ever suggested I should find 'some illegals' to do my yard work was a devout, committed, loud and proud, conservative Republican.

Makes me laugh now. Cut to a few years later and it is all the Dems fault that folks overstayed temp visas to do the yard work, painting, construction work for liberals and conservatives.
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