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Old 08-24-2019, 01:18 PM
 
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You and I might not think being gay should matter, but it does matter to some employers. Whatever those reasons are, it takes a law to prohibit discrimination. It took laws to prohibit discrimination based on religion, race, nationality, sex, etc..

Trump is taking the right Legal position. No way, no how was the word 'sex' in the Civil Rights Act intended to cover sexual orientation, gender fluid, gender identity. Courts and administrative agencies are trying to impose non-existent law on employers because states and the Feds haven't moved fast enough, or not at all, to explicitly cover lgbtqa+.
So how is it proven that 'sex' does not mean others outside of the 'male' or 'female' orientation?
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:25 PM
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I think extremist looneys have taken over the Republican Party. I read an article that republicans in Texas are actively trying to make lives for gays much harder if not impossible by making it legal for any licensed professional except emergency medical responders to refuse service to gays and lesbians just for being homosexual. On top of that, the republicans in other southern states are banning abortion even for victims of rape. Republicans are literally taking our rights away right before our eyes. It is scary to watch what is happening to our country.
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:52 PM
 
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Of course it is.

The majority have defined it to include the concept of not excluding someone for their innate characteristics.
I dont believe my ownership rights are subject to a majority vote. I also don't think relationships are subject to them either.
would it be okay for your neighbors to vote themselves the use of your swimming pool?
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Old 08-24-2019, 02:05 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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[quote=jazzarama;56012998]Firing an employee because they are gay is perfectly legal, unless a law prohibits it. Trump is upholding the plain meaning of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which covers 'sex,' not sexual orientation, gender identity, *****, A, or an other of the alphabet soup designations.[/QUOTE)


Oh give it a rest......who someone chooses to love or sleep with has nothing to do with their work or job.....
"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me."

Why do some people think they can call the rules for everyone?
If you want to make rules for others start with making this president act like one...Unite not divide.
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Old 08-24-2019, 02:09 PM
 
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Simply remove 'marriage' as a concept from law. Replace with contracts. Done. I won't have to hear about it anymore.
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Old Yesterday, 12:47 PM
 
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So how is it proven that 'sex' does not mean others outside of the 'male' or 'female' orientation?
I know it's difficult for the easily emotionally triggered to understand there's a difference between what a person thinks Should be the law vs. what Is the law. 'Male' and 'female' are not 'orientations.' There's no way the federal Civil Rights Act covers 'orientation.'

My state had laws for decades prohibiting discrimination based on 'sex.' Over the past 15 years it explicitly added sexual orientation, gender identity, transgender, and even asexuality. Though I personally support those additions, I believe those classes must be explicitly added to the federal law to be protected.
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Old Yesterday, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA (Sandy Springs)
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I dont believe my ownership rights are subject to a majority vote.
They are when it comes to employment and public accommodation.

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I also don't think relationships are subject to them either.
would it be okay for your neighbors to vote themselves the use of your swimming pool?
Not really a valid comparison.

Do your neighbors come into your home for 8+ hours every weekday?

Workers spend so much of their time and life at work that some basic job protections are not unreasonable.
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Old Yesterday, 01:07 PM
 
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https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovemen...-gay-is-legal/

I wonder how the Log Cabin Republicans feel now about endorsing Trump? So what if we can be fired? Go back to hiding in the closet? Welcome to the 1950's when America was GREAT!!!
Most likely Log Cabin Republicans believe businesses have the right to hire and fire whomever they choose for whatever reason they choose.
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Old Yesterday, 01:41 PM
 
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So how is it proven that 'sex' does not mean others outside of the 'male' or 'female' orientation?
because there are only two sexes. Male and female.
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Old Yesterday, 03:00 PM
 
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They are when it comes to employment and public accommodation.


Not really a valid comparison.

Do your neighbors come into your home for 8+ hours every weekday?

Workers spend so much of their time and life at work that some basic job protections are not unreasonable.
none of that is justification for denying a person control of their own property, who they pay money to in exchange for labor or who they associate with.
As for employees they are free to quit, change jobs or start their own business and do so without reason or notice. That's what is reasonable.
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