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Old Today, 05:43 AM
 
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I wonder how the Log Cabin Republicans feel now about endorsing Trump? So what if we can be fired? Go back to hiding in the closet? Welcome to the 1950's when America was GREAT!!!
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Old Today, 05:47 AM
 
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Who other than the owner should determine hiring and firing standards?
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Old Today, 05:48 AM
 
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Who other than the owner should determine hiring and firing standards?
A guy in a suit downtown.

That's who.
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Old Today, 08:14 AM
 
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Why do people feel the need to invite their employer into their bedroom?
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Old Today, 08:30 AM
 
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I wonder how the Log Cabin Republicans feel now about endorsing Trump? So what if we can be fired? Go back to hiding in the closet? Welcome to the 1950's when America was GREAT!!!
Firing an employee because they are gay is perfectly legal, unless a law prohibits it. Trump is upholding the plain meaning of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which covers 'sex,' not sexual orientation, gender identity, *****, A, or an other of the alphabet soup designations.
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Old Today, 08:34 AM
 
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Firing an employee because they are gay is perfectly legal, unless a law prohibits it. Trump is upholding the plain meaning of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which covers 'sex,' not sexual orientation, gender identity, *****, A, or an other of the alphabet soup designations.
Guess I don't understand. Why should being gay matter if they are a good worker with appropriate behavior while on the job?
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Old Today, 09:22 AM
 
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Guess I don't understand. Why should being gay matter if they are a good worker with appropriate behavior while on the job?
It shouldn’t. But nearly all of the people who were opposed to marriage equality do not want a law stating that, nearly all those in favor do want such a law.

Obviously not a coincidence.
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Old Today, 09:40 AM
 
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I wonder how the Log Cabin Republicans feel now about endorsing Trump? So what if we can be fired? Go back to hiding in the closet? Welcome to the 1950's when America was GREAT!!!
So much of the Republican platform and agenda is built around homophobia and downright pure hatred for the LGBT community that I have no respect for the log cabin Republicans. The ultimate goal of most Christian conservatives is to force gays back into the closet. In fact, anger over same-sex marriage being legalized is one of the main reasons Trump is so popular. And yes, most conservatives simply cannot accept that the 1950s are over and are trying to force us all back there at any cost. At this point I'm really starting to lose hope that we will even have a choice when this is all said and done.
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Old Today, 10:17 AM
 
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Firing an employee because they are gay is perfectly legal, unless a law prohibits it. Trump is upholding the plain meaning of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which covers 'sex,' not sexual orientation, gender identity, *****, A, or an other of the alphabet soup designations.
These cases have been going on since the 1970's - every Court of Appeals has heard them and ruled basically the same .... UNTIL Donald Trump was elected. The criteria for the rulings has always been the same - the word "sex" in the 1964 Civil Rights Legislation refers to Male/Female Gender and NOT "sexual orientation". Congress has used "sexual orientation" in other Legislation, but did not use it in the Civil Rights Act. Congress can and should amend the Civil Rights Act, but has deliberately chosen not to do so. The Courts rule on what Law says, not what Law might or should say.

I read the brief - it refers to all the cases that have appeared for years and the Court's rulings. The Obama Administration did what they often did -- ignored the LAW as written and made new "law" by Executive Action. These cases are whether the Obama Executive Actions trump a 1964 Civil Rights Law.
The Department of Justice is required to defend the Law as written.

“The question here is not whether Title VII should forbid employment discrimination because of sexual orientation, but whether it already does,” the brief says. “The statute’s plain text makes clear that it does not; discrimination because of ‘sex’ forbids treating members of one sex worse than similarly situated members of the other — and discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, standing alone, does not result in such treatment.”

The US House passed The Equality Act, which would provide protections for Sexual Orientation - no Republicans supported the Equality Act .... because it was loaded with the standard Leftist Poison pills.
Donald Trump supports the protections, but not the poison pills.

Is Donald Trump 2016's most LGBT-friendly Republican? |MSNBC - August 2015
Asked whether private companies should be able to fire employees simply because they’re gay, Trump told "Meet The Press" host Chuck Todd on Sunday that he didn’t think sexual orientation “should be a reason” for letting workers go.

t’s not the first time Trump has taken a pro-LGBT stance. As far back as 2000, Trump was advocating the idea of amending the 1964 Civil Rights Act to prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation -- something the currently-pending Equality Act would basically do if lawmakers on Capitol Hill ever decided to pass it.

“[A]mending the Civil Rights Act would grant the same protection to gay people that we give to other Americans -- it’s only fair,” Trump told The Advocate in February, 2000. In the same interview, Trump said he favored “a very strong domestic-partnership law” that guaranteed same-sex couples equal legal rights as married, heterosexual couples. Trump also said he believed Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell -- the military’s then-ban on openly gay service members -- had “clearly failed.”

Trump’s spokesperson, Hope Hicks, did not immediately respond to msnbc’s request for comment on where the presidential candidate stood on the Equality Act. But his longstanding support for ending discrimination against gay people has been well documented.

In his 2000 book, “The America That We Deserve,” Trump outlined his dream of a nation “unencumbered by bureaucratic ineptitude, government regulation, confiscatory tax policies, racism, discrimination against women, or discrimination against people based on sexual orientation.” Eleven years later, Trump told CBN’s “The Brody File” that gay people were “tremendous” and that “there can be no discrimination against gays.”


Trump opposes federal LGBTQ nondiscrimination bill, citing 'poison pills'
Democrats reintroduced the Equality Act in March, championing the bill as a necessary step to creating a national standard for LGBTQ nondiscrimination. |NBC - May 2019

“The Trump administration absolutely opposes discrimination of any kind and supports the equal treatment of all," the official stated. "However, this bill in its current form is filled with poison pills that threaten to undermine parental and conscience rights.”

Among the Poison Pills - a person can be fired by using a pronoun incorrectly (according to a transgender), trans athletes competing in Women's sports, mixed restrooms and shower facilities, surgeries on children for transgendering (Doctors would be forced to do the surgeries or lose their medical license).

The majority of Americans reject the Poison Pills and the Leftists show their true colors by forcing Poison Pills they know Republicans will reject instead of just providing the things that most Americans support - which are Equal Rights concerning Jobs, housing and normal protections. Americans don't support Radicals and their Agenda - the Gay Community is losing because of the Radicals.
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Old Today, 10:38 AM
 
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Oh Kibby all of that nuance doesn't make for great headlines though. It's too hard to actually have to think critically.

/sarcasm
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