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Old Today, 03:10 AM
 
Location: Micronesia
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Equality of opportunity in a super unequal society. You must believe in Santa to believe in that. How do you imagine equality of opportunity in the midst of inequality? Are inner city kids equal with elite private school preppies just because they can apply to the same universities?

You must believe nonsensical things to keep together your worldview of a hopeful peasant, a peasant putting up with a lot of bs in an exchange for a flickering hope to join the fleecing classes whose progeny are destined for cushy corporate jobs and fat investment portfolios, rain or shine, if desired they can convert cash and family connections in power. Funny you talk equal opportunity and meritocracy when the stable genius is our president, and absolute poster child for American meritocracy and equality of opportunity - Bush Ii was our President for 8 years.
Believing that all people should have equality of opportunity has nothing to do with fantasy.

If you do not believe that is something that should be, so be it. However saying people should be treated differently under the law based on your opinions is nothing less than tyrannical subjugation of innocents.

Somewhere between your meritless insults and unhinged opinions, I believe I see your point.

You truly believe in government enforcement of "equality of outcomes"? So, you are a Harrison Bergeron devotee?
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Old Today, 03:35 AM
 
Location: USA
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Believing that all people should have equality of opportunity has nothing to do with fantasy.

If you do not believe that is something that should be, so be it. However saying people should be treated differently under the law based on your opinions is nothing less than tyrannical subjugation of innocents.

Somewhere between your meritless insults and unhinged opinions, I believe I see your point.

You truly believe in government enforcement of "equality of outcomes"? So, you are a Harrison Bergeron devotee?
It's called Tyranny, and Oppression based on what THEY want. Government enforced outcomes for their pet Identities, none of which are White Male.
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Old Today, 06:24 AM
 
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a better descriptor? try Humanism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism


many people believe in the good/bad ..all or nothing paradigm.... people in the real world are all over the map in their beliefs


while researching the religious right i came across the little publicized fact that that shows many christian evangelist support the state of Israel while personally NOT supporting Jewishness in general and in fact are anti-Semitic at the personal level....
you can find studies made within the Evangelical community recognizing the difference between Zionism (Israel state support) and support of the Jewish people in general...
conservative supporters of Israel call others anti-Semitic for merely pointing out this difference..THIS is a result of the binary good/bad world view point...
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Old Today, 06:26 AM
 
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How did we end up labeling ultra-leftists "progressives" in the first place? I'll tell ya: they chose that name for themselves, revealing yet again their arrogance, as a way of saying that they are the ones with advanced thinking who would move this country forward (if only conservatives would get out of their way). In truth, the policies they are peddling in order to make every equal, regardless of ability, intelligence, motivation, decent values, etc. (such as reparations, housing downpayments for blacks, health care for illegals, sanctuary cities, and wipe-out of student loan debt), would bring about economic collapse within a decade.

What we be a more apt label for them? I'll start.

1. EQUALIZERS

Fascists
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Old Today, 08:05 AM
 
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Now I think they've accepted being called " Neoprogs ". Liberals with an authoritarian sentiment.
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Old Today, 11:12 AM
 
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Equality of opportunity in a super unequal society. You must believe in Santa to believe in that. How do you imagine equality of opportunity in the midst of inequality? Are inner city kids equal with elite private school preppies just because they can apply to the same universities?

You must believe nonsensical things to keep together your worldview of a hopeful peasant, a peasant putting up with a lot of bs in an exchange for a flickering hope to join the fleecing classes whose progeny are destined for cushy corporate jobs and fat investment portfolios, rain or shine, if desired they can convert cash and family connections in power. Funny you talk equal opportunity and meritocracy when the stable genius is our president, and absolute poster child for American meritocracy and equality of opportunity - Bush Ii was our President for 8 years.
People are not equal. If you had a foot race would you expect everyone to finish at the exact same time? You are espousing Marxism of the Frankfort school of critical theory just like I said progressives do.
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