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Old Today, 10:26 AM
 
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How did we end up labeling ultra-leftists "progressives" in the first place? I'll tell ya: they chose that name for themselves, revealing yet again their arrogance, as a way of saying that they are the ones with advanced thinking who would move this country forward (if only conservatives would get out of their way). In truth, the policies they are peddling in order to make every equal, regardless of ability, intelligence, motivation, decent values, etc. (such as reparations, housing downpayments for blacks, health care for illegals, sanctuary cities, and wipe-out of student loan debt), would bring about economic collapse within a decade.

What we be a more apt label for them? I'll start.

1. EQUALIZERS
Except this whole presentation by leftists about being advocates for "equalization" or anything even remotely like that is just a lie. What they are actually advocating for is complete dominant control, based on no identifiable fixed morals or principles at all. None.

So a more accurate label for them would be something along the lines of one of the following:
  1. Bullies
  2. Tyrants
  3. Dictators
  4. Controllers
  5. Totalitarians
  6. Autocrats
  7. Oppressors
Pick one. Their values are not progressive and new. They are regressive and very old. It is what "civilized" mankind has suffered under for most of our time here together. They will bring us back to that.

See current day China and Russia if you want glimpse of what their agenda results in. It is not any sort of "equality" or "equalization," that is for certain.
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Old Today, 10:27 AM
 
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The modern definition came from Vice President Wallace. Who in the context of WW2 declared this must be an age of the common man.

Referred to the Bible in reference to social justice. An end of slavery to elites. Despised colonialism and the racial superiority view that justified it.

Really stuff most people would agree with. But those in power used underhanded tactics to get rid of him.

His big sin being that he agreed that it was the Russians that really won WW2 and thus branded a communist.

https://www.americanrhetoric.com/spe...worldassoc.htm
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Old Today, 10:33 AM
 
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How did we end up labeling ultra-leftists "progressives" in the first place? I'll tell ya: they chose that name for themselves, revealing yet again their arrogance, as a way of saying that they are the ones with advanced thinking who would move this country forward (if only conservatives would get out of their way). In truth, the policies they are peddling in order to make every equal, regardless of ability, intelligence, motivation, decent values, etc. (such as reparations, housing downpayments for blacks, health care for illegals, sanctuary cities, and wipe-out of student loan debt), would bring about economic collapse within a decade.

What we be a more apt label for them? I'll start.

1. EQUALIZERS
Surpsingly. These types of people advocating for such stuff are mainly white liberals who love in cozy gated communities far away from the housing projects where balck folks live, very far away from native American reservations, they sure don't love close to illegal immigrants who serve them with food deliveries via their iPhone food deliver app, once parents die, some of these white liberals parents assests will be transfered down to them. Illegals, blacks on the projects, generational poor whites and native Americans don't have such advantages
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Old Today, 10:37 AM
 
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SJWs fight for the truths laid out in our Declaration of Independence. Even if they get a bit carried away, they are engaging in a very American cause. That people are trying to demonize that aspect is disheartening.
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Old Today, 12:18 PM
 
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SJWs fight for the truths laid out in our Declaration of Independence. Even if they get a bit carried away, they are engaging in a very American cause. That people are trying to demonize that aspect is disheartening.
They are doing the opposite. They are using the government and other people's money through forced confiscation (more taxes) to SOCIAL ENGINEER society to make it more like THEY WANT, against the wishes of many if not most people. They are using lies and identity politics in order to do it.
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Old Today, 12:18 PM
 
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Progress Bad.

Cave men good. Uh Uh. I see woman. Woman good.

Reminds me of Clan of the Cave Bear, Daryl Hannah was a progressive.

Ted Roosevelt was a progressive - probably the first well known one because he believed in a certain equality between labor and capital and he did trust busting. He felt that a Square Deal for working people was important to our nation.

That has been thrown out the window by "conservatives" starting (in modern times) with Reagan. Corporations are King again and Big Government keeps wages very low (Texas, Florida) and also is fine with large trusts.

Sometimes I think SOME Republicans want to be progressive but they feel they have to buy 100% of the propaganda since they bought some of it. The world doesn't work that way. One can hold certain views...which are "old fashioned" (I sure do!) and yet they can see that the Square Deal and the New Deal and such things are very important to the Happiness of the People and that progress is the mark of a modern society.
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Old Today, 01:06 PM
 
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Ask Dr. Paul what he thinks of MAGAs.
Right. Dr. Paul's opinions and $6.50 will get you a cup of bad burnt coffee with your choice of insipid flavorings at Starbucks. Besides...if I have to listen to the opinions of either Dr. Paul, I'm sending them an invoice for services rendered, although the younger Dr. Paul is not nearly as crazy as the elder one.
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Old Today, 01:16 PM
 
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They are doing the opposite. They are using the government and other people's money through forced confiscation (more taxes) to SOCIAL ENGINEER society to make it more like THEY WANT, against the wishes of many if not most people. They are using lies and identity politics in order to do it.
You’re exaggerating and casting them all in the same light.

Someone fighting for the right to not be discriminated against for their sexual orientation is a very conservative pro-liberty notion enshrined in our Declaration of Independence.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
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Old Today, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Tax hikers would be a good name for liberals.

They are progressive in that they want to get their grubby hands on progressively more of people's bank accounts.
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Old Today, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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How did we end up labeling ultra-leftists "progressives" in the first place? I'll tell ya: they chose that name for themselves, revealing yet again their arrogance, as a way of saying that they are the ones with advanced thinking who would move this country forward (if only conservatives would get out of their way). In truth, the policies they are peddling in order to make every equal, regardless of ability, intelligence, motivation, decent values, etc. (such as reparations, housing downpayments for blacks, health care for illegals, sanctuary cities, and wipe-out of student loan debt), would bring about economic collapse within a decade.

What we be a more apt label for them? I'll start.

1. EQUALIZERS

WE didn't assign that label; they did.

You don't have to adopt the Newspeak, you know.
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