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Old 08-26-2019, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I don't think that is very common really.
Like I said, you would be surprised.
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Old 08-26-2019, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Someone who is not an officer of the law has no legal right to restraint or prevent another adult from leaving a situation in which there's been no crime committed against the person or property of the restrainer. That is kidnapping.

Touching another without their permission (i.e. just as this guy did as seen on video as he's dragging and pulling this woman back towards his motel room) is considered battery. It doesn't matter why he did it, he legally had no right.

Twice she left and twice he coerced and physically restrained her and pulled her or dragged her back. She had the right to leave whether she was wearing clothes or not.

So from that video I know 2 things:

1. He committed battery
2. He kidnapped

I also believe he sexually assaulted this woman, based on her pleading for help from another person right there as she was being dragged back as well as the both of them without clothes on.


You can make all the excuses you want, but despite the jury acquitting him, he did commit more than 1 crime.
Actually, as has already been pointed out and linked, you can break the law in order to prevent greater harm.
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Old 08-26-2019, 06:14 PM
 
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The dude cheated on his wife in a sleazy hotel is about the best thing I can say about the guy.

The fact that the accuser told cops that she wasn't raped (among other things) lead the jury to find him not-guilty.

Two entirely different conversations.
Only a low crawling cretin and cowardly punk beats women and drags them down the street .
A stray dog in the street has more intelligence and couth
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Old 08-26-2019, 06:32 PM
 
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If this was an all black jury, I would not be surprised.

That being said, a half naked woman running down the street, probably drunk, you'd be remiss to not keep her inside your place if you were a caring man. I'm not saying he wasn't a predator, but it's easy to see why this was not necessarily that kind of action.

She is also trashy - whether she was raped or not, she was obviously fine cheating on her boyfriend. A drug abuser too.

I would let him go as well. She's not worth sending anyone to prison over.
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Old 08-26-2019, 06:35 PM
 
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If this was an all black jury, I would not be surprised.

That being said, a half naked woman running down the street, probably drunk, you'd be remiss to not keep her inside your place if you were a caring man. I'm not saying he wasn't a predator, but it's easy to see why this was not necessarily that kind of action.

She is also trashy - whether she was raped or not, she was obviously fine cheating on her boyfriend. A drug abuser too.

I would let him go as well. She's not worth sending anyone to prison over.
Only a cowardly punk that does not have the raising of stray dog behaves so animalistic .
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Old 08-26-2019, 06:40 PM
 
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Only a cowardly punk that does not have the raising of stray dog behaves so animalistic .
I'm sorry but if your woman is running half naked, stoned on drugs, outside, I'd pull her back inside as well. That's what's being a man is about. Sometimes you need to make those decisions.

I can easily see this as rape but the video itself could have another explanation. And like I said, she's trash herself. No need in whiteknighting this sk*nk.
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:00 PM
 
Location: the Sticks
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I'm sorry but if your woman is running half naked, stoned on drugs, outside, I'd pull her back inside as well. That's what's being a man is about. Sometimes you need to make those decisions.

I can easily see this as rape but the video itself could have another explanation. And like I said, she's trash herself. No need in whiteknighting this sk*nk.
Wow. Maybe I have led a sheltered life. I have never been accused of rape. Then again I have never attempted to bed a woman high on drugs either. I was smart enough to associate with a better class of people.

Let's be real. Very few of us have been in a position to wrestle a stoned woman back into our hotel room because very few of us are dumb enough to put ourselves in that position.

This fine young man, who benefited from a College education, because he was good at Basketball, should know better. Jocks are gods in the USA, it is no coincidence that so many find themselves in trouble with the law. Why would they be concerned about obeying laws? Their entire sports life they have been treated as something special. It's a shame we keep giving jocks a free pass for crimes we would convict the average guy for.

Being a man is not about pulling your stoned date back into your hotel room. Being a man is being smart enough to avoid such people.
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:01 PM
 
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I'm sorry but if your woman is running half naked, stoned on drugs, outside, I'd pull her back inside as well. That's what's being a man is about. Sometimes you need to make those decisions.

I can easily see this as rape but the video itself could have another explanation. And like I said, she's trash herself. No need in whiteknighting this sk*nk.
If someone is in such distress they walking down the street naked anybody with half a brain brings them
a blanket to cover them with . If they then don't won't to go anywhere with you , anybody with half a brain
calls 911 and just tries to get the person to stay where they are until help arrives .
That is what not " being a man " is about , but what being human being is about .
Only a half wit , cowardly punk responds as in the video .
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:05 PM
 
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If someone is in such distress they walking down the street naked anybody with half a brain brings them
a blanket to cover them with . If they then don't won't to go anywhere with you , anybody with half a brain
calls 911
and just tries to get the person to stay where they are until help arrives .
That is what not " being a man " is about , but what being human being is about .
Only a half wit , cowardly punk responds as in the video .
So you are in a situation where illegal drugs are connected to you, and because you "have half a brain“ you are going to call the police and invite them over? That would truly take someone with only half a brain.
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:07 PM
 
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If someone is in such distress they walking down the street naked anybody with half a brain brings them
a blanket to cover them with . If they then don't won't to go anywhere with you , anybody with half a brain
calls 911 and just tries to get the person to stay where they are until help arrives .
That is what not " being a man " is about , but what being human being is about .
Only a half wit , cowardly punk responds as in the video .
Being a coward is letting your distressed woman run down the street, half naked, stoned, in the middle of a night. A true man takes her inside, by force if necessary, until the drugs begin to wear off knowing that it will look bad to the rest of the public. If he's not raping her in there, he's being a caring man. If he's raping her inside, he's being a predator.
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