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Old Today, 08:51 AM
 
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Is it any wonder women are reluctant to report sexual assault in our society?

Here video evidence is pretty damning, as well as the eyewitness, yet the jury still acquits him. Where was the police after the initial report?

'Celebrity justice' at its finest.

https://sports.yahoo.com/mateen-clea...032443858.html

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Days after Mateen Cleaves as acquitted by a jury on four counts of sexual assault, the video used by prosecutors against the Michigan State basketball great has come to light.

The video, which can be seen in the news clip above, comes from surveillance footage taken between 1:30 a.m. and 2 a.m. outside the Knights Inn Motel in Grand Blanc, Mich. and was obtained by WXYZ Detroit through a public records request.

The jury in Cleaves’ trial was shown the video, but it was never released to the public until after the trial. The incident took place in September 2015.
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Old Today, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Is it any wonder women are reluctant to report sexual assault in our society?

Here video evidence is pretty damning, as well as the eyewitness, yet the jury still acquits him. Where was the police after the initial report?

'Celebrity justice' at its finest.

https://sports.yahoo.com/mateen-clea...032443858.html


I've had consensual sex with women.

Don't recall having to drag them back into the hotel room...

If you are naked and forcefully taken somewhere, that's rape.
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Old Today, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Willamette Valley, Oregon
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What was the jury thinking? That's very damning evidence. I don't understand how they could acquit him.
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Old Today, 11:12 AM
 
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I've had consensual sex with women.

Don't recall having to drag them back into the hotel room...

If you are naked and forcefully taken somewhere, that's rape.
In fact, under our corrupt, two-tier system of justice, championed by the Obama administration and the radical militant "Politically correct" Democrat left, that is not applicable to people who are wealthy in terms of money or celebrity status, who have the appropriate "Identity politics" status, and who openly and actively support the politics of the Democrat left.
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Old Today, 11:17 AM
 
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I've had consensual sex with women.

Don't recall having to drag them back into the hotel room...

If you are naked and forcefully taken somewhere, that's rape.
I think you could put also put in under the "kidnapping" and "abduction" categories.
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Old Today, 11:20 AM
 
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I've had consensual sex with women.

Don't recall having to drag them back into the hotel room...

If you are naked and forcefully taken somewhere, that's rape.
Thats correct...but when you are a person of importance (sports, politics, entertainment, etc), the same rules DO NOT apply to them.


Im not surprised at all the jury found him not guilty, even knowing they saw the video, he is a basketball great for a college team (enough said!).


It will be interesting to see how this impacts the college basketball team, will season ticket holders stop buying? Will advertisers avoid the team now? Will people stop watching or buying tickets? I very much doubt it, if anything, they will probably be MORE popular!


Id even go as far to say, the network that reported this story...they will probably be airing team games and covering their wins/losses thru out the season!! WOW!
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Old Today, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Brackenwood
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In fact, under our corrupt, two-tier system of justice, championed by the Obama administration and the radical militant "Politically correct" Democrat left, that is not applicable to people who are wealthy in terms of money or celebrity status, who have the appropriate "Identity politics" status, and who openly and actively support the politics of the Democrat left.
Just how big a celebrity is this guy? Has anyone anywhere heard his name anywhere in, say, the last 10 years? Had you ever even heard his name at all until just now?


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Thats correct...but when you are a person of importance (sports, politics, entertainment, etc), the same rules DO NOT apply to them.


Im not surprised at all the jury found him not guilty, even knowing they saw the video, he is a basketball great for a college team (enough said!).


It will be interesting to see how this impacts the college basketball team, will season ticket holders stop buying? Will advertisers avoid the team now? Will people stop watching or buying tickets? I very much doubt it, if anything, they will probably be MORE popular!


Id even go as far to say, the network that reported this story...they will probably be airing team games and covering their wins/losses thru out the season!! WOW!
So wait -- because someone who played basketball for a college team committed a crime ("allegedly") 20 years later, people should stop watching that team and local news programs should stop providing the scores and highlights? In what way does this event involve the team AT ALL? Just how deep does this "guilt by association" concept go, or is there any limiting principle at all?
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Old Today, 11:38 AM
 
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Just how big a celebrity is this guy? Has anyone anywhere heard his name anywhere in, say, the last 10 years? Had you ever even heard his name at all until just now?



So wait -- because someone who played basketball for a college team committed a crime ("allegedly") 20 years later, people should stop watching that team and local news programs should stop providing the scores and highlights? In what way does this event involve the team AT ALL? Just how deep does this "guilt by association" concept go, or is there any limiting principle at all?
How do you think he got off scott free from those charges?!!! If this was some 'nobody'/ average Joe smith down the street, and there was a video like this....he would be convicted in 5 minutes and be sent up for 20+ yrs.


Just curious, does anyone know how long the jury deliberated in this case? Im betting it was not long.
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Old Today, 11:41 AM
 
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So wait -- because someone who played basketball for a college team committed a crime ("allegedly") 20 years later, people should stop watching that team and local news programs should stop providing the scores and highlights? In what way does this event involve the team AT ALL? Just how deep does this "guilt by association" concept go, or is there any limiting principle at all?
That is a concept promoted from within. Even in my high school basketball days the coach drilled into us that we were representative of the team and the school. So don’t sag your pants and set bad examples. Certainly don’t go raping women.
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Old Today, 11:41 AM
 
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Celebrities can usually get away with murder. Literally.
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