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Old 08-29-2019, 07:53 PM
 
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You probably would have said the same thing for the original 13 colonies. Besides, you're also probably the type who say we could use every immigrant we can find. Don't you want land to put them on?
Wild guess. You can't answer the question so you have to respond with whataboutisms that have nothing to do with the question I asked.
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Old 09-03-2019, 11:43 AM
 
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Greenland has been wanting to leave Denmark for a few years now. There might be a referendum soon to become part of the US. Stay tuned.
The voters should be given similar choices to those given that nearby, almost adjacent Newfoundland was given in 1948 for new status in 1949 (link) and (link to runoff):
  1. Join the U.S. (the choice given Newfoundland was to join Canada);
  2. Remain under Danish rule (the choice given Newfoundland was to retain British direct government under a seven-member royal commission); or
  3. Independence
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Old 09-04-2019, 10:37 AM
 
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We have a big enough country already. Why do you want more?
Because Greenland is situated in a strategic position in the North Atlantic, which is also in the crosshairs of Russia and China. It also has vast natural resources, such as rare earth minerals which would negate Chinaís leverage in that valuable resource, among other considerations.
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Old 09-06-2019, 07:14 PM
 
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Because Greenland is situated in a strategic position in the North Atlantic, which is also in the crosshairs of Russia and China. It also has vast natural resources, such as rare earth minerals which would negate Chinaís leverage in that valuable resource, among other considerations.
We have our own rare earth minerals, and Iceland is in a strategic location. Greenland isn't anywhere near China. In fact, the closest country to Greenland(that has any Arctic territory") is Canada. After that, there are Iceland and Norway. Alaska is located closer to China than Greenland is. And Russia is literally right across the strait. And Alaska has rare earth minerals: https://pubs.er.usgs.gov/publication/70044949
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Old 09-06-2019, 07:29 PM
 
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The whole idea of buying Greenland smacks of colonialism. Greenland is home to 56,000 people mostly Inuits. Greenland has an autonomous government. Many of Greenland's people hope for Independence from Denmark, but recognize that they are dependent on economic support from Denmark. Greenlanders already have an antipathy toward the US due to villagers having been removed to allow the US to have a military base there.
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Old Yesterday, 02:08 AM
 
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The whole idea of buying Greenland smacks of colonialism. Greenland is home to 56,000 people mostly Inuits. Greenland has an autonomous government. Many of Greenland's people hope for Independence from Denmark, but recognize that they are dependent on economic support from Denmark. Greenlanders already have an antipathy toward the US due to villagers having been removed to allow the US to have a military base there.
I just don't see what is so bad about colonialism. We have allowed ourselves to be educated by "leaders" of soon-to-be Third World countries. Many of them developed "economies" that amount to tin-cup shaking. And the proceeds went not to development but to wars and Swiss bank accounts. See Colonialism v. Immigration v. National Borders v. Compassion - What's the Solution? Excerpt:
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Now, the U.S., Europe, Australia and Israel are beleaguered by the waves of people who want something better. However, by and large, they lack the education and/or work ethic needed to succeed in 21st Century society.

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Independence in the 1950's and 1960's has come with large amounts of aid. And private help. Think "We Are the World." And the "world" has nothing to show for it. Taxpayers in the more affluent countries cannot be expected to open their homes, hands and hearts endlessly. Perhaps the way to go is large-scale international aid, administered by the West. Sort of like a Peace Corp. on a large scale. We cannot shirk our moral duties to the world. However, for obvious reasons, in doing this we cannot respect the right of kleptocratic leaders to "self-determination."
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Old Yesterday, 02:29 PM
 
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The whole idea of buying Greenland smacks of colonialism. Greenland is home to 56,000 people mostly Inuits. Greenland has an autonomous government. Many of Greenland's people hope for Independence from Denmark, but recognize that they are dependent on economic support from Denmark. Greenlanders already have an antipathy toward the US due to villagers having been removed to allow the US to have a military base there.
Colonialism is what some people want. And there are some people who know that Greenland is comprised mainly of Inuits. There are some people who look down on non-Whites and seem them as "they need to be colonized by us, as they are inferior". I think some people do have a mindset of "we want to bring back colonialism. I don't think this is about strategy or rare earth minerals. This is about "Expansionism is how we make American great again". Some people don't care if Greenlanders have an antipathy towards Americans. Some see it as "56,000 of them vs hundreds of millions of us".
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Old Yesterday, 02:31 PM
 
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I just don't see what is so bad about colonialism. We have allowed ourselves to be educated by "leaders" of soon-to-be Third World countries. Many of them developed "economies" that amount to tin-cup shaking. And the proceeds went not to development but to wars and Swiss bank accounts. See Colonialism v. Immigration v. National Borders v. Compassion - What's the Solution? Excerpt:
I would expect you to say something like that. Ever thought that maybe Greelanders don't want to be part of the USA? Greenland already has a U.S. military base, and some Greenlanders were displaced in its building of it.

Why do YOU want Greenland so badly? And don't say "rare earth metals". The USA has plenty of those minerals on its own. And we already have a strategic land area in the Arctic. It's called Alaska.
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Old Yesterday, 02:40 PM
 
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For those who claim they want Greenland because it has rare earth minerals and a strategic location, here are some things to lay out:

1) The USA has its own rare earth minerals. In fact, mining of rare earth minerals is an important part of the economy in states such as Wyoming and Montana. We have what we need right here in the USA, and its easier to get to.
2) Alaska is in the Arctic. Alaska is in a strategic location. And it's already a U.S. state. Russia is literally right across the Bering Strait. Alaska is about as close to China as Greenland is.
3) Denmark isn't interested in selling Greenland at all. If anything, Denmark and Greenland are closer to working towards Greenland's independence than selling it to the USA.

Based on all of this, come up with a better reason for wanting Greenland than "minerals" and "strategic location".
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Old Yesterday, 08:36 PM
 
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Trump should buy China and end all his problems. Or Mexico.....
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