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Old 08-25-2019, 11:39 PM
 
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Well we know the Democrats and their supporters don't otherwise they wouldn't keep fighting the funding for the good physical barriers to deter illegal entry. Funny, how they approved those type of barriers back in 2006 on 700 miles of the most porous areas of our border but only 35 miles of it was built under Obama while the rest ended up being mere flimsy fencing that could be breached. They either hate Trump that much or they started to realize that they needed to retain the ethnocentric Hispanic-American vote and the future Democrat voters pouring over our border in order to stay in power.
Well it is unlikely the people entering the border will ever be entitled to vote. Hispanics are not ethnocentric btw. Hispanic is a culture and it a different thing.

Anyway if you do no like refugees fleeing across the border then stop voting in politicians that contribute to the chaos in Central America.
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Old 08-26-2019, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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We’re not the only country that has free loaders trying to gain entry.
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Old 08-26-2019, 04:31 PM
 
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Well it is unlikely the people entering the border will ever be entitled to vote. Hispanics are not ethnocentric btw. Hispanic is a culture and it a different thing.

Anyway if you do no like refugees fleeing across the border then stop voting in politicians that contribute to the chaos in Central America.
The Democrats are pushing for amnesty and the citizenship for illegal aliens. Where have you been? Yes, I live in an area heavily populated by Hispanics and they are very tribal and ethnocentric. Many of them support illegal immigration because most of these illegals are of their same ethnic group. Why are the Democrats pandering to them with amnesty then if that's not what they want?

Refugees should have to apply outside of our country and wait for approval. There is a very limited criteria to qualify and most of them are using bogus reasons to claim asylum in our country. I couldn't care less what they are fleeing we should prevent them from entering our country without approval. I vote for politicians who have the best interests of our own citizens at heart and that doesn't include creating any so-called chaos anywhere in the world either.
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Old 08-26-2019, 07:07 PM
 
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The Democrats are pushing for amnesty and the citizenship for illegal aliens. Where have you been? Yes, I live in an area heavily populated by Hispanics and they are very tribal and ethnocentric. Many of them support illegal immigration because most of these illegals are of their same ethnic group. Why are the Democrats pandering to them with amnesty then if that's not what they want?

Refugees should have to apply outside of our country and wait for approval. There is a very limited criteria to qualify and most of them are using bogus reasons to claim asylum in our country. I couldn't care less what they are fleeing we should prevent them from entering our country without approval. I vote for politicians who have the best interests of our own citizens at heart and that doesn't include creating any so-called chaos anywhere in the world either.
Sucessive US Governments have helped create chaos in Central Americ “The destabilisation in the 1980s – which was very much part of the US cold war effort – was incredibly important in creating the kind of political and economic conditions that exist in those countries today,” said Christy Thornton, a sociologist focused on Latin America at Johns Hopkins University.ahttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...foreign-policy

Neoliberal politicians have also created the ripe conditions for asylum seekers in the US to work there even if it illegal and live there, such as big businesses attracted to hiring them due to they are willing to work on much less pay compared to Americans. Also if you are a struggling farmer and have limited resources to afford to pay people labour, then they can easily hire illegals to do the work. This method has been widely practiced for many, many years

The Democrats as I have read are not for open borders, Democrats as a group are divided on aslyum seekers entering the USA, just as the Republicans are. Even the most radical Democrats will concede that the United States has the right to preserve its sovereignty and protect its borders. They may have strong ideas about the best way to do that, but no one wants to just fling open the doors and let in the whole world.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/democr...n-borders-myth
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Old 08-26-2019, 11:15 PM
 
Location: USA
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219 km, nothing compared to the length of the border with Mexico.
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Old 08-27-2019, 04:53 AM
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Because they don't

https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/27/us/sa...nel/index.html

They certainly help right wingers feel all good inside though. Not worth billions and billions of dollars we don't have
I love it when liberals suddenly become deficit hawks who are worried about "spending money we don't have" ��

The same party who almost unanimously agreed in principle to support a new plan that will add as much as 9.5 TRILLION in ADDITIONAL annual spending on a Green New Deal argues that $80 billion for a physical wall is "a waste of money"

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
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Old 08-27-2019, 05:26 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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They do not have determined Hispanics actually wanting in. Their immigrants simply go around on their way to countries with better benefits.
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Old 08-27-2019, 05:53 AM
 
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I love it when liberals suddenly become deficit hawks who are worried about "spending money we don't have" ��

The same party who almost unanimously agreed in principle to support a new plan that will add as much as 9.5 TRILLION in ADDITIONAL annual spending on a Green New Deal argues that $80 billion for a physical wall is "a waste of money"

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
Giving Trump's trillion dollars annual deficits a free pass after you let dubya double the national debt and hand Obama the worst economy in generations. How does it feel to be a hypocrite this much?

BTW don't let your head explode when you realize slick Willy was the biggest fiscal conservative in decades
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Old 08-27-2019, 06:47 AM
 
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I love it when liberals suddenly become deficit hawks who are worried about "spending money we don't have" ��

The same party who almost unanimously agreed in principle to support a new plan that will add as much as 9.5 TRILLION in ADDITIONAL annual spending on a Green New Deal argues that $80 billion for a physical wall is "a waste of money"

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
Funny how these lefty liberals and ethnocentrics have no problem spending over $100 billion a year on illegal aliens but not far less for national security that includes good physical barriers on our border that have proven to be very effective. Their agenda is clear.
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Old 08-27-2019, 06:51 AM
 
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Funny how these lefty liberals and ethnocentrics have no problem spending over $100 billion a year on illegal aliens but not far less for national security that includes good physical barriers on our border that have proven to be very effective. Their agenda is clear.
Parroting debunked right wing talking points. How quaint

https://www.cato.org/blog/fairs-fisc...fatally-flawed
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