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Old Yesterday, 07:25 PM
 
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Soldiers should be allowed to the latitude to kill whom ever they want according to the OP.
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Old Yesterday, 08:28 PM
 
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This is a military investigation. Jumping on one side versus the other is basically criticizing the U.S. military.

Even our military, especially the upper brass, has been hijacked by marxists and socialists. Some of the festering political correctness that has oozed out of the Pentagon in the past 20 or so years has been outright sickening.
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Old Yesterday, 08:35 PM
 
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Our military should be tasked with two major tasks, killing people and breaking things. If our politicians are so damn interested in playing armchair Colonel they should have joined or stayed in the military, then led their troops from the front of the line, rather than hiding in dark hole security protections in Washington DC or in some other hiding hole.
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Old Yesterday, 08:39 PM
 
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Even our military, especially the upper brass, has been hijacked by marxists and socialists. Some of the festering political correctness that has oozed out of the Pentagon in the past 20 or so years has been outright sickening.
So your theory is upper brass is evil and lower is not. Question. Did you serve? My guess is no.
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Old Yesterday, 08:42 PM
 
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It's a trial. Why don't you reserve your opinion until the verdict?
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Old Yesterday, 09:50 PM
 
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So your theory is upper brass is evil and lower is not. Question. Did you serve? My guess is no.

The WAY upper brass isn't so much evil, they have simply been indoctrinated, co-opted and overrun by the left and political correctness. Plus when I say upper brass, I'm not talking about most of the boots on the ground officers. My reference to those people is when they are in seriously high places or political places like the Pentagon and Washington DC.


No... I've never served. I have a problem with authority that abuses its authority. Not a good fit for the military. My deceased father is a retired CSM (E-9) with 23 years in the Army. But all of that is irrelevant because my not having served does NOT mean I cannot offer my opinion, so what the hell does your question have to do with anything anyway, other than somehow meant to disparage me?


I grew up around the military until I left home at the age of 15. One of my foster parents, the longest I was ever placed with any foster parents, was a retired LTC Green Beret. Plus I had numerous other foster parents who were active Army. So even after I left home, I was around the military as I was growing up. I have a pretty good handle on what was considered acceptable and what wasn't in the military. Many of our upper top brass would be fragged by their men if they treated them the way they act in the Pentagon or in DC... and I believe they would deserve it. General Norman Schwarzkopf, one of my commanding General heroes, would never risk being fragged because his troops RESPECTED him because he was a good man and he led from the front.


Anyway, the next time you feel the need to attempt to disparage me, don't be all passive aggressive about it. Spit it out and own it, otherwise keep your snooty and snide "Did you serve?" comments/questions to yourself. They serve nothing other than to inflate your own self importance. I would have IF I didn't have a ton of baggage that you will never be able to comprehend because you didn't live your first 15-1/2 years of your life being so abused by the one person who is supposed to love and protect you the most, your mother... abused to the point of being hospitalized numerous times for multiple days at a time, and that's just the abuse that was discovered. I knew I couldn't serve because of how I reacted to abusive authority. That doesn't invalidate my opinions.
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Old Yesterday, 09:54 PM
 
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The WAY upper brass isn't so much evil, they have simply been indoctrinated, co-opted and overrun by the left and political correctness. Plus when I say upper brass, I'm not talking about most of the boots on the ground officers. My reference to those people is when they are in seriously high places or political places like the Pentagon and Washington DC.


No... I've never served. I have a problem with authority that abuses its authority. Not a good fit for the military. My deceased father is a retired CSM (E-9) with 23 years in the Army. But all of that is irrelevant because my not having served does NOT mean I cannot offer my opinion, so what the hell does your question have to do with anything anyway, other than somehow meant to disparage me?


I grew up around the military until I left home at the age of 15. One of my foster parents, the longest I was ever placed with any foster parents, was a retired LTC Green Beret. Plus I had numerous other foster parents who were active Army. So even after I left home, I was around the military as I was growing up. I have a pretty good handle on what was considered acceptable and what wasn't in the military. Many of our upper top brass would be fragged by their men if they treated them the way they act in the Pentagon or in DC... and I believe they would deserve it. General Norman Schwarzkopf, one of my commanding General heroes, would never risk being fragged because his troops RESPECTED him because he was a good man and he led from the front.


Anyway, the next time you feel the need to attempt to disparage me, don't be all passive aggressive about it. Spit it out and own it, otherwise keep your snooty and snide "Did you serve?" comments/questions to yourself. They serve nothing other than to inflate your own self importance. I would have IF I didn't have a ton of baggage that you will never be able to comprehend because you didn't live your first 15-1/2 years of your life being so abused by the one person who is supposed to love and protect you the most, your mother... abused to the point of being hospitalized numerous times for multiple days at a time, and that's just the abuse that was discovered. I knew I couldn't serve because of how I reacted to abusive authority. That doesn't invalidate my opinions.
I can feel for you abuse. But how does that have anything to do with the military?
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Old Yesterday, 10:07 PM
 
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I can feel for you abuse. But how does that have anything to do with the military?

I'm NOT criticizing the military, I am criticizing the top military brass. They have become an arm of the politicians, doing their bidding of spreading cultural marxism throughout the military rather than focusing on being military leaders.


Do you think Schwarzkopf or Eisenhower would have stood by as their men were treated the way this former Green Beret is being treated? Not only no but hell no. Both have commendations for personally going back, trying to save troops, placing their own lives at risk in the process.



The military prosecutors have NOTHING, no new evidence to bring before the court so they file for continuance after continuance, hoping they can find something to hang this war hero for. They are doing it to appease the top brass. Is THAT the kind of military you would risk anything, much less everything for? Even the President, who also didn't serve but he gets it, finds this whole thing reprehensible and has said as much.
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Old Yesterday, 10:09 PM
 
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I'm NOT criticizing the military, I am criticizing the top military brass. They have become an arm of the politicians, doing their bidding of spreading cultural marxism throughout the military rather than focusing on being military leaders.


Do you think Schwarzkopf or Eisenhower would have stood by as their men were treated the way this former Green Beret is being treated? Not only no but hell no. Both have commendations for personally going back, trying to save troops, placing their own lives at risk in the process.



The military prosecutors have NOTHING, no new evidence to bring before the court so they file for continuance after continuance, hoping they can find something to hang this war hero for. They are doing it to appease the top brass. Is THAT the kind of military you would risk anything, much less everything for? Even the President, who also didn't serve but he gets it, finds this whole thing reprehensible and has said as much.
Seriously. Where do you get that crap? I mean you are just making stuff up at this point.
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Old Yesterday, 10:15 PM
 
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Seriously. Where do you get that crap? I mean you are just making stuff up at this point.

Did you even READ the article OR the comments below it?
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