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Old 08-24-2019, 10:16 PM
 
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Green Beret accused of killing suspected Taliban bomb maker facing 'agonizing' wait for trial, wife says

This is an example of the U.S. fights its wars with both hands tied behind its back. Many lives may have been saved, and yet the powers that be, in Obama-era 2010 feel the need to appear righteous before the world. Make no mistake; the Taliban are the same animals that plowed planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon. Are Afghani authorities trying anyone for that mass, cold-blooded murder? Yet we are making dainty distinctions to persecute a hero.

Sickening.
"and charged Golsteyn in December 2018."

This was under Trump, lol.
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Old 08-24-2019, 10:18 PM
 
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Did you even READ the article OR the comments below it?
I read it and lived it.
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Old 08-24-2019, 10:29 PM
 
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I read it and lived it.

Cool. What was your MOS?
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Old 08-24-2019, 10:32 PM
 
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cool. What was your mos?
etr3
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Old 08-24-2019, 10:41 PM
 
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Yea, whatever. I'm done with you.
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Old 08-25-2019, 01:45 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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It's a trial. Why don't you reserve your opinion until the verdict?
The very act of putting this Green Beret on trial is problematic. The problem is that this soldier, in an elite unit, is having his actions second-guessed or worst by people operating in the safety of offices in the U.S., not in the field where IED's are threatening daily death.
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Old 08-25-2019, 01:48 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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"and charged Golsteyn in December 2018."

This was under Trump, lol.
The incident and the internal events leading to the prosecution were under Obama. Most of the bureaucracy in the military was supplied by Obama.
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Old 08-25-2019, 02:21 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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I am criticizing the emasculated Obama military.
How can you criticize us for being above a barbaric country, where individual citizens become vigilantes and make their own rules ? Maybe in the movies does the hero blow up and kill anyone he deems to be the "enemy", but we hold our people to a higher standard, as we should.

Military are no different than anyone else, they have to act in a legal manner, not decide they think someone is a bad guy and become judge, jury, and executioner.
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Old 08-25-2019, 05:31 AM
 
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The very act of putting this Green Beret on trial is problematic. The problem is that this soldier, in an elite unit, is having his actions second-guessed or worst by people operating in the safety of offices in the U.S., not in the field where IED's are threatening daily death.
That isn't what happened.

He intercepted the victim on release without orders to do so.

He shot him, buried him, then dug him up and burned his corpse in a refuse pit

This wasn't a "Oopsie we shot a kid" bursting through the door of a bomb suspects house, and people getting sentimental at HQ.

He put himself in this situation, and second guessed his chain of command by pursuing a suspect who was released to Afghan security.

His first hearing stripped his Silver Star and SF ribbon, and he was discharged. So while he wasn't found guilty at that time of murder he was hardly exonerated. Then he flapped his gums during an interview with the CIA about killing an unarmed man released from Afghan Security...

So don't go mistaking this as an "In the Field" incident, it wasn't, and let's be honest if it was a good kill why bury him? Why dig him up and burn his corpse? Nope, I'm thinkin' he got his panties in a bunch because they released him, and, I'll betcha dollars to donuts the guy was a CIA informant.
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Old 08-25-2019, 05:37 AM
 
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So your theory is upper brass is evil and lower is not. Question. Did you serve? My guess is no.

I did, and I don't like officers!
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