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Old Yesterday, 01:47 PM
 
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Gender is a social construct...right? Or not?
It's physiological.
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Old Yesterday, 01:52 PM
 
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https://www.the-scientist.com/featur...r-people-30027

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In recent years, techniques such as functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) have begun to yield clues to possible biological underpinnings of the condition known as gender dysphoria. In particular, researchers are identifying similarities and differences between aspects of the structure and function of the brains of trans- and cisgender individuals that could help explain the conviction that one’s gender and natal sex don’t match.
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Old Today, 06:56 AM
 
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Nobody is born with their brain chemistry saying they are a horse.

People are born with their brain chemistry gender not matching their physical gender.
Yes, but let it live in the brain instead of performing radical surgery and hormones. I still think it doesnít solve the issue but only adds additional issues.
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Old Today, 06:58 AM
 
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Yes, but let it live in the brain instead of performing radical surgery and hormones. I still think it doesnít solve the issue but only adds additional issues.
Should we ban all elective surgeries or just the ones you don't like?
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Old Today, 07:03 AM
 
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Should we ban all elective surgeries or just the ones you don't like?
I’m not calling for bans. If they want them, fine, but often it turns into the biggest regret for the people who undergo the surgery. What I want banned is parents and doctors giving hormone therapy and even surgery to young children. That trend needs to go in the same box as frontal lobotomy. It’s dangerous.
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Old Today, 07:03 AM
 
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Ban the gov from paying for it, especially for a prisoner.

If someone wants it, let them pay for it or a private organization.
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Old Today, 07:11 AM
 
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Iím not calling for bans. If they want them, fine, but often it turns into the biggest regret for the people who undergo the surgery. What I want banned is parents and doctors giving hormone therapy and even surgery to young children. That trend needs to go in the same box as frontal lobotomy. Itís dangerous.
I'm talking about grown adults.

Such surgery on children is child abuse and the kid should be taken from the nutball parents.
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Old Today, 07:12 AM
 
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Ban the gov from paying for it, especially for a prisoner.

If someone wants it, let them pay for it or a private organization.
Exactly. Tax payer money should never pay for elective surgery.
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Old Today, 08:00 AM
 
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A decision by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with a federal judge, who had ruled last year that denying the surgery for inmate Adree Edmo violated the constitution because it amounted to cruel and unusual punishment.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...court-transgen
Oh, puh-leeze!

What about all those transgendered people who lived before sex change surgery was possible? Was forcing them to live in the "wrong" body cruel and unusual punishment?

If people don't want to live without (almost) complete freedom, then they should not do things that result in them being imprisoned.

(And, yes, I know that some people are wrongly imprisoned, but the majority of them aren't, and the vast majority of prisoners are not transgendered.)
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Old Today, 08:23 AM
 
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And he's in prison for abuse of a 15 year old boy when he was 22. But the state should pay for him to have a sex change? Bull pucky.

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/23/75378...sgender-inmate

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Edmo is serving a 10-year prison sentence for sexually abusing a 15-year-old boy when she was 22. She is scheduled for release in 2021 and is not eligible for parole.
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