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Old Today, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Like we didn't already have enough to worry about, with water destroying the ocean, and oxygen destroying the air. Now this...

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Old Today, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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This goes beyond simplistic 2+2=4 level thinking. The statement in the OP is more dynamic thinking, which can see the results through various moving parts.

People see freedom in different ways.

Some think you can do whatever you want (good, bad, or ugly) with your freedom because hey - I'm free, I can do what I want. Now - "what I want" becomes the main focus, and the freedom for others doesn't matter. At this point - you can have people like April Ryan deny the free press for others while at the same time campaigning for her free speech. At this point - people can misuse their freedom and put out false articles that hurt other people in order to advance an agenda. This can come from the left or the right. Freedom of the press is not the priority in this case.

Other people (like myself) see that freedom has boundaries of right and wrong and truth. Freedom needs to be protected by these boundaries. The freedom of others needs to be respected.
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Old Today, 06:47 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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As much as I hate it when I have to agree with our Tweeter-in-Chief, the current media is destroying the free press. The fourth estate is supposed to be the purveyor of truth and instead has become an arm of propaganda. I’m not talking about those who are clear that what they are saying is opinion, I talking about the ones spouting opinion and claiming it is reporting or “news” entities that selectively report or not report stories based on a bias.

No matter how much you dislike him, it is not balanced reporting if 90+% of all stories of a sitting president are negative. He meets with people receiving awards, he holds Easter egg hunts, he signs feel good things, economic numbers for certain demographics have improved, and so forth. The “news” entities in our nation have put themselves in a position where a concerningly large percentage of the nation no longer believes them, let alone trusts them.
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Old Today, 07:00 AM
 
Location: USA
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Yesterday we were watching the PBS show by Rick Steves "The Story of Fascism in Europe." He hosts a travel show on PBS and in this show we just saw he goes to the places where fascism began, talks to people about how it came about and how it could happen again. One of the things that came up in the show was how they got rid of the press. This is relevant to today. All these attacks on the press aren't for our benefit. Personally I wouldn't mind if this show ran 24 hours a day right now. It needs to be seen. What happened in the past could happen again.
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Old Today, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Neither Levine or Trump have no credibility. Levine's criticism would have more meaning if he attacked commentators like Sean Hannity and spent less time defending the likes of John Carlson.


Never heard a president call the media the Enemy of the State, we are in new territory with Trump in the white house.
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Old Today, 07:04 AM
 
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As much as I hate it when I have to agree with our Tweeter-in-Chief, the current media is destroying the free press. The fourth estate is supposed to be the purveyor of truth and instead has become an arm of propaganda. I’m not talking about those who are clear that what they are saying is opinion, I talking about the ones spouting opinion and claiming it is reporting or “news” entities that selectively report or not report stories based on a bias.

No matter how much you dislike him, it is not balanced reporting if 90+% of all stories of a sitting president are negative. He meets with people receiving awards, he holds Easter egg hunts, he signs feel good things, economic numbers for certain demographics have improved, and so forth. The “news” entities in our nation have put themselves in a position where a concerningly large percentage of the nation no longer believes them, let alone trusts them.

Well Said.

Too bad there's still so many easily influenced, they parrot what the MSM says as fact without thought or question.
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Old Today, 07:15 AM
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Location: Avery Co., NC
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Our media was overthrown decades ago.. the banksters, CIA, global gov't shills via the Council on Foreign Relations ect. Free press in America? Not really ...IF you report the documented truth its slammed as "conspiracy theory" relegated to back page or ignored because its not reported by the MSM.
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Old Today, 07:15 AM
 
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You guys don’t like the attention Trump gets in the media, then next time elect a boring President.

President Obama was pretty boring, although that didn’t stop the right-wing mass media from attacking him 24/7.
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Old Today, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Neither Levine or Trump have no credibility. Levine's criticism would have more meaning if he attacked commentators like Sean Hannity and spent less time defending the likes of John Carlson.


Never heard a president call the media the Enemy of the State, we are in new territory with Trump in the white house.
We are in a new territory with the press. The NY Times is creating narratives about Trump being racist. They are no longer a news group, but an outlet of propaganda. If they are not going to act like the press, why should the freedom of the press apply to them?

You do understand that the president had to endure a massive hoax that the press undertook that lasted for well over two years.

You do understand that he is falsely called a racist repeatedly by the press. His family is constantly under the harsh and inaccurate characterization of the press.

Just on a personal level, how would you expect him to respond... especially in the light of how others presidents were treated?
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Old Today, 07:21 AM
 
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This speaks for itself. They printed over 120,000 copies too.



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