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Old Yesterday, 09:38 AM
 
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One in six Americans are old enough for Social Security. If you think the NRA has Trump by the cojones just wait until AARP grabs them.
I nominate this for post of the thread!

Perhaps the best of the day.
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Old Yesterday, 09:47 AM
 
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This Sunday morning news programs featured the Trump bunch. They were all warning that the old republican plan to end Social Security, Medicare, Medicare and other social programs are back on the table. Trump's real plan to preserve Social Security is to cut benefits and raise the age.

Trump ran on the promise he would preserve SS, Medicare, Medicaid and he got a large number of senior votes because of that promise. Now that Trump has exceeded 12,000 lies why would one more matter? Trump is in deep trouble, recession around the corner, his action against climate change, the largest military budget in the world, and then he gave over a trillion dollars to his buddies. Trump is a rat that is cornered and he will strike out in all directions. That means SS, Medicare, Medicaid are on Trump's hit list.
I don't know of one senior who will vote for him again.

"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." Randall Terry
Trump is revealing his true loyalties.

To get elected he said one helluva lotta things that made no sense for a Republican to say. It speaks volumes that he was willing to say them when other Republican candidates (who shared his disdain for the social safety net most of us rely on) knowing they would be called on it, would not make those promises publicly.

Now he has to square his public promises with the expectations of his true base: the wealthy globalist industries which he feels the closest affinity towards and which support his campaign.

Of course these multinational corporations would be just tickled pink not to have to pay 6% on top of the gross wages of their employees to the Social Security fund, of course they want to kill off the program. Trump will accommodate them if he can, his old campaign promises be damned. That's the Trump way.
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Old Yesterday, 09:54 AM
 
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Trump always says what he is thinking even when it gets him in trouble. Here is the first sentence of the article....

"Donald Trump won’t say it, but Republicans in the Senate will"

It looks like the old guard Republicans even want Trump out so they can get back to enjoying the good ole boys club like the old days when nothing got done.
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Old Yesterday, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb Trump says he may begin cutting Social Security and Medicare if he wins in 2020

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Originally Posted by chopchop0 View Post
Sounda good to me.... let these maga retirees/boomers pay for the deficits from billionaire and corporate tax cuts with cuts to their benefits. This Gen Xer never planned on seeing Medicare or SS when he retired anyways

Something tells me trump won't be campaigning on this though

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-ma...201130207.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresag...rve-the-beast/

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...ederal-deficit
Well now, chopper...

If tRump truly is stupid enough to campaign on that, this coming election is over before it even starts.

November 3, 2020...

Toodle-loo, tRump. It's been real.

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Old Yesterday, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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About as happy as the only permanent tax cuts going to corporations probably, and the trillion dollar annual deficits for the next decade to pay for them

That's nice...care to address your earlier lie, i.e., "Trump says" ?
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Old Yesterday, 10:21 AM
 
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Originally Posted by chopchop0 View Post
Sounda good to me.... let these maga retirees/boomers pay for the deficits from billionaire and corporate tax cuts with cuts to their benefits. This Gen Xer never planned on seeing Medicare or SS when he retired anyways

Something tells me trump won't be campaigning on this though

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-ma...201130207.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresag...rve-the-beast/

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...ederal-deficit

Heck yeah. I'd much rather manage my own retirement and health care, without paying into a bogus socialist program!
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Old Yesterday, 10:27 AM
 
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OP, can you provide a link where Trump said this? Democrats have been telling us what we think all the time and it is not true. I don't want to know what others tell us Trump thinks, seriously.
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Old Yesterday, 10:38 AM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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Originally Posted by chopchop0 View Post
Sounda good to me.... let these maga retirees/boomers pay for the deficits from billionaire and corporate tax cuts with cuts to their benefits. This Gen Xer never planned on seeing Medicare or SS when he retired anyways

Something tells me trump won't be campaigning on this though

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-ma...201130207.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/teresag...rve-the-beast/

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...ederal-deficit
a) any cuts/adjustments to SS do NOT effect people already retired or people who have been in the system for any amount of times
1) for example..if we raised the retirement age (which should be done)..it would effect those entering the system NOW, not those already in the system


b) adjustments (if you want to call them cuts) such as raising the retirement age, raising the cap etc ARE NEEDED....why do liberals want to see SS die???




c) trump has NOT said he would even think about cutting SS...that is another liberal lie
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Old Yesterday, 12:17 PM
 
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I am just wondering how many of those people who are saying the Boomers deserve to be destitute realize that they are talking about their parents and grandparents, and realize that their elderly relatives might end up needing their help directly -- and, if so, if they will be so callous as they appear to be in these threads.

Personally, my husband and I have quite a large amount retirement savings to take care of us for at least 20 years (knock wood), even without Social Security,, but that is not true for most retiree, although it would be on a very modest level. Are some of people saying "Yay!" to cuts saying that they should just die if they can't afford to live? (And, yes, I would like to seriously read some answers to that.)
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Old Yesterday, 12:20 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Lol.

911 was planned for, trained for and financed during Clinton.

What was Bush supposed to do. Remember how liberals went ape **** when Trump wanted to restrict travel of Muslims from countries with terrorism issues?
And Clinton warned Bush who promptly did NOTHING. People died on HIS watch.

As Trump FAILED to restrict travel from Saudi Arabia - his ban was for political points only and perfectly meaningless.
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